Posted on 04/16/2018 5:46:02 PM PDT by NRx
THE END OF “ROMAN CATHOLICISM?”
by Roberto Pertici
1. At this point in the pontificate of Francis, I believe it can be reasonably maintained that this marks the twilight of that imposing historical reality which can be defined as “Roman Catholicism.”
This does not mean, properly understood, that the Catholic Church is coming to an end, but that what is fading is the way in which it has historically structured and represented itself in recent centuries.
It seems evident to me, in fact, that this is the plan being deliberately pursued by the “brain trust” that has clustered around Francis: a plan understood both as an extreme response to the crisis in relations between the Church and the modern world, and as a precondition for a renewed ecumenical course together with the other Christian confessions, especially the Protestant.
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2. By “Roman Catholicism” I mean that grand historical, theological, and juridical construction which has its origin in the Hellenization (in terms of the philosophical aspect” and Romanization (in terms of the political-juridical aspect) of primitive Christianity and is based on the primacy of the successors of Peter, as emerges from the crisis of the late ancient world and from the theoretical systematization of the Gregorian age (“Dictatus Papae”).
Over the subsequent centuries, the Church also established its own internal legal system, canon law, looking to Roman law as its model. And this juridical element contributed to gradually shaping a complex hierarchical organization with precise internal norms that regulate the life both of the “bureaucracy of celibates” (an expression of Carl Schmitt) that manages it and of the laity who are part of it.
(Excerpt) Read more at magister.blogautore.espresso.repubblica.it ...
We’ll await your list of items proving why Francis should be excommunicated.
21. Private judgment of every individual to determine matters of faith.
Sure sounds like you.
The Bereans constantly searched the Scriptures to determine if teachings they were hearing were true or not. John tells us to test the spirits to see if they are from God. Christians have been given the Spirit to teach them all things to guide them in all things.
6. Denial of venial sin.
There are no "little" sins. All sin separates us from God and all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
17. Vows of celibacy are wrong and should be abolished.
While the RCC can require what they want of their priests, there is no NT support mandating this.
20. The keys of the kingdom were not just given to Peter.
Were not all of the disciples given the same authority?
21. Private judgment of every individual to determine matters of faith.
See the comment on the Bereans and John.
24. God has not instituted the vocation of monk
God does not call the believer to shut themselves away from the world. We are told not to be in the world or love this world. We are to be witnesses unto all the nations.
25. Feast days should be abolished.
While you can call a feast day is should not be mandatory. 16Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day— Colossians 2:16 NASB
26. Fasts should be strictly optional.
Christians are encouraged to fast...but there are no requirements of fasting on certain days.
And it doesn't even sound like the Roman Catholic is giving up a whole lot when they are required to fast:
For members of the Latin Catholic Church, the norms on fasting are obligatory from age 18 until age 59. When fasting, a person is permitted to eat one full meal, as well as two smaller meals that together are not equal to a full meal. The norms concerning abstinence from meat are binding upon members of the Latin Catholic Church from age 14 onwards.http://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/liturgical-year/lent/catholic-information-on-lenten-fast-and-abstinence.cfm
If you're going to fast....fast!
27. Canonization of saints is thoroughly corrupt and should stop.
There is no NT support for this.
48. Jesus allowed divorce when one partner committed adultery.
Divorce was allowed for unfaithfulness (Matt 5:32; 19:9)
42. Penitential works are worthless.
This "punishment" for sins does nothing to forgive the sins...they've already been forgiven via the Cross.
Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]
Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.
Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy
Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy
Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]
Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]
Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]
Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.
Ebb is lobbying hard to oust Francis.
It’s like... does he even read his own links?
I mean, half of the stuff he rages endlessly at Dr. Luther for are things he himself does every single day here on FR.
Uh-huh. And have you looked at these cherry-picked quotes in context?
I thought that Freepers were supposed to be above falling for clumsy propaganda.
Amen!
Do you dispute ANY of them?
I’ve disputed that idiotic article before.
Every single quote in it is misquoted, taken out of context, or has no evidence whatsoever that Luther actually said it.
The article is nothing but propaganda, and clumsy propaganda for that matter. It’s total garbage used to feed the sinful hatred of prideful Romanists.
We’ll know when we meet God for our judgment - and at that point we can’t go back and change anything.
We’ll know when we meet God for our judgment - and at that point we can’t go back and change anything.
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How fortunate that Jesus died for our sins to give us the free gift of salvation, as Scripture says and as Dr. Luther preached.
And that we are saved by grace through faith, not by works, so that no man may boast, as Scripture says and as Dr. Luther preached.
So even your sins of spreading lies about Dr. Luther can be forgiven, because Jesus died for you, as Scripture says and as Dr. Luther preached.
http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/ Here’s a blog that answers every one of the misquotes in your article, by the way. You know, if you’re willing to do research instead of just believing falsehoods because they’re what you want to hear.
Wouldn’t all Ten Commandments instruct us to “believe” instead of act? Faith alone is dangerous trap, and it has led to the demise of much of Christianity in the Western world (even among us Papist pigs).
If faith alone, coupled with the death of Christ on the cross, ensures my salvation, why would I ever attend church or do a good deed? Even worse, why WOULDN’T I DO EVIL DEEDS?
Wouldn’t all Ten Commandments instruct us to “believe” instead of act? Faith alone is dangerous trap, and it has led to the demise of much of Christianity in the Western world (even among us Papist pigs).
If faith alone, coupled with the death of Christ on the cross, ensures my salvation, why would I ever attend church or do a good deed? Even worse, why WOULDN’T I DO EVIL DEEDS?
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You really need to read the Bible. All the answers to your accusations are found in Paul’s letter to the Ephesians, the second chapter.
And your logical fallacy is funny too. Doesn’t matter what people do; if Jesus and the Apostles taught that salvation is by grace through faith and NOT on account of works (As St. Paul, St. John, and Jesus himself taught, as can be CLEARLY FOUND in the WORD OF GOD), then it’s true.
Give Ephesians 2 and Romans 3 and 1 John a read and then get back to me.
Ping to a conversation that may pique your interest!
Ephesians 2: “For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus TO DO GOOD WORKS, which God prepared in advance for us to do.” (emphasis mine)
I interpret your interpretations differently; it would seem there is an assumption that people of faith would by extension do good works.
Lutherans are sure living rent free in the heads of the RC sect at least on free republic. Maybe they are jealous of sound doctrine?
I interpret your interpretations differently; it would seem there is an assumption that people of faith would by extension do good works.
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Of course people of faith would do good works. I’m quite insulted that you’d think that Protestants don’t do good works.
For pity’s sake, the apostle James says that faith without works is dead.
It doesn’t change the fact that the revealed Word of God says that we are saved by grace through faith and NOT on account of works over and over and over and over again.
Do YOU do good works only because you think that you’ll get some kind of reward for them? Do you only do good works because you think you’ll earn salvation?
I would find it hard to believe that works done because you expect payment from God would be called good works at all.
I believe in the true Apostolic teaching, not what a bunch of twits in the Vatican want me to believe.
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