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"Catholics Will Have to Decide Whether They Guard the Faith Over Papolatry"
Gloria TV ^ | July 17, 2017 | Gloria TV

Posted on 07/17/2017 8:08:32 AM PDT by ebb tide

“Francis is more interested in leftwing politics than in Catholic theology”, George Neumayr, contributing editor of The American Spectator, states talking to Tom Woods on July 14th on tomwoods.com. Woods describes Francis as a result of John Paul II who - as he puts it - appointed "absolutely terrible people" as bishops: "Catholics have suffered under Bergoglios for decades now”.

Neumayr agrees that a lot of the liberal bishops were appointed by John Paul II and Benedict XVI. He sees Francis as the “culmination of a century” of liberalism and modernism in the Church.

For him it is "highly unlikely" that Francis, who in his theology is “more a Protestant than a Catholic” will convert to Catholicism. Instead, the realistic scenario is that Francis will produce division and chaos, "Catholics will have to decide whether they guard the faith over papolatry.”

And: “The Cardinals have to declare that Francis is a bad pope who must be resisted.”


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: francischurch; protestants
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To: ebb tide; ealgeone

Stop the personal flame war.

The Religion Forum will not be a venue for your childish posts.


601 posted on 07/20/2017 2:06:48 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: ebb tide

Do NOT accuse any poster of lying.


602 posted on 07/20/2017 2:07:32 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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603 posted on 07/20/2017 2:08:17 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: TheStickman
Mark 12:26-27

26Now about the dead rising-have you not read in the Book of Moses, in the account of the burning bush, how God said to him, 'I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? 27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!"

I seem to recall some about the Dead in Christ who happen to be SLEEPING in their tombs.

So is Mary.

You Catholics just cannot FIND her tomb!

604 posted on 07/20/2017 4:03:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TheStickman
Do not post to me again for 30 days.

And if I don't OBEY you; then what?

I seem to recall that Porter Rockwell was MORMON; not Catholic.

605 posted on 07/20/2017 4:04:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone

I’ve been called ugly by toads lots of times.


606 posted on 07/20/2017 4:05:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius
And just HOW does one acquire the POWER to do 'good works'?

By grace of God.

And just HOW does one acquire the grace of God.?

607 posted on 07/20/2017 4:07:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius

Have you any evidence of this ‘retaining’ even being applied?


608 posted on 07/20/2017 4:08:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius
Oh look, you can play word games.

Yes; I CAN post things from the Word that directly opposes what you've typed.

609 posted on 07/20/2017 4:09:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius
All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that is not deadly.

Please!

For the sake of the lurkers anyway; can you post the LIST of these sins that the RCC has discovered and judged as being NOT deadly and the ones that ARE??

610 posted on 07/20/2017 4:10:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius
Since we are talking about sin that would separate us from God...

Maybe YOU are, but I am not.

I am talking about UNBELIEF that would separate us from God!

611 posted on 07/20/2017 4:11:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius
I did not think that I had go into a whole discussion of the Catholic understanding of the differences between Mortal Sins and Venial Sins.

Do NOT waste your precious time discussing; just post the LIST or a link TO the List.

612 posted on 07/20/2017 4:13:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TheStickman
I should never have commented in one of these threads.

It DOES get kinda hot in the kitchen these days.

613 posted on 07/20/2017 4:14:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
You Catholics just cannot FIND her tomb!

Catholics have never looked for the Blessed Mother's tomb; they know She was assumed, body and soul, into Heaven. We celebrate that Feast Day on August 15th.

614 posted on 07/20/2017 4:14:27 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Elsie
Have you any evidence of this ‘retaining’ even being applied?

Are you denying that this authority was given to the Apostles? Do you not believe the Bible?

615 posted on 07/20/2017 4:18:09 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: TheStickman
I don’t need to justify my beliefs to anyone but Our Heavenly Father & His Son, Jesus Christ.

In the Book that Rome assembled long ago, we find...


Jude 1:3

Jude 1:3 Douay-Rheims Bible

Dearly beloved, taking all care to write unto you concerning your common salvation, I was under a necessity to write unto you: to beseech you to contend earnestly for the faith once delivered to the saints.


As well as...


1 Peter 3:15 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

 But sanctify the Lord Christ in your hearts, being ready always to satisfy every one that asketh you a reason of that hope which is in you.



616 posted on 07/20/2017 4:18:49 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide; Elsie
Catholics have never looked for the Blessed Mother's tomb; they know She was assumed, body and soul, into Heaven. We celebrate that Feast Day on August 15th.

Roman Catholics presume she was assumed. There is no tangible proof of this happening or not happening.

The doctrine of the Assumption of Mary had its beginnings in the Byzantine Empire around the 6th century. An annual feast honoring Mary gradually grew into a commemoration of Mary’s death called the Feast of Dormition (“falling asleep”). As the practice spread to the West, an emphasis was placed on Mary’s resurrection and the glorification of Mary’s body as well as her soul, and the name of the feast was thereby changed to the Assumption. It is still observed on August 15, as it was in the Middle Ages. The Assumption of Mary was made an official dogma of the Roman Catholic Church in 1950 by Pope Pius XII.

The Bible does record God “assuming” both Enoch and Elijah into heaven (Genesis 5:24; 2 Kings 2:11). Therefore, it is not impossible that God would have done the same with Mary. It is not wrong to believe that God “assumed” Mary into heaven. The problem is that there is no biblical basis for the Assumption of Mary. The Bible does not record Mary's death or again mention Mary after Acts chapter 1. Rather, the doctrine of the Assumption is the result of lifting Mary to a position comparable to that of her Son. Some Roman Catholics go so far as to teach that Mary was resurrected on the third day, just like Jesus, and that Mary ascended into heaven, just like Jesus. The New Testament teaches that Jesus was resurrected on the third day (Luke 24:7) and that He ascended bodily into heaven (Acts 1:9). To assume the same thing concerning Mary is to ascribe to her some of the attributes of Christ. While the idea of the Assumption of Mary is not heretical in and of itself; in the Roman Catholic Church, the Assumption of Mary is an important step toward why Mary is venerated, worshipped, adored, and prayed to. To teach the Assumption of Mary is a step toward making her equal to Christ, essentially proclaiming Mary’s deity.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Assumption-Mary.html

617 posted on 07/20/2017 4:20:13 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Chicory
...and through these movements of the heart to remit venial sin.”

WAIT!!!

I thought that the Priest had to forgive your sins: venial or mortal.

618 posted on 07/20/2017 4:21:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Chicory
And the Brown Scapular, as you seem to know, is not an indulgence but a sacramental.

Seems like a magic trinket to me; reminding a person that some kind of apparition appeared and made some boastful claims to children.

619 posted on 07/20/2017 4:23:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that is not deadly.

Please!

For the sake of the lurkers anyway; can you post the LIST of these sins that the RCC has discovered and judged as being NOT deadly and the ones that ARE??

Do you not believe the words of Scripture? Scripture cannot denied, thus this distinction must exist. Do not, however, look for a list but for the conditions. These I have already posted: grave matter, sufficient reflection, and full consent of the will.

620 posted on 07/20/2017 4:24:31 PM PDT by Petrosius
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