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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; metmom

I don’t recall being instructed how to spit on Christians and, since we Jews have a measure and method for every commandment, perhaps you could show me your source so that I may know how to do it properly if I see you?

You could argue that the point of the OP’s post was to show the foolishness of a Catholic leader proclaiming a hesitance to criticize the evils of Islam. But you chose instead to defend the antisemitism as justified.

Inferred of course is that the ancient, dark-age, (and I’ll add Luther Protestants until the divinely providential inception of America) Christians didn’t just write about their hatred for Jews or their theological reasons for disagreeing with them— they tortured and murdered them. [Ergo how could we modern day Catholics criticize Islamists....according to the article]

But you choose instead to justify the antisemitism. It’s all quite a matter of fact and history you see. (Puny Human read it on Come and Hear.com) Before you puff up— yes, the aforementioned Talmudic teaching of Jesus boiling IS in the Talmud. FYI it’s next to the punishment of Bilam the sorcerer...boiling in feces. That is a teaching on the gravity of heresy, literal or metaphorical. BUT IT’S IN A BOOK. Are you or were you afraid that a Jew would’ve used your Christian blood for Passover matzah? Do you believe a Jew tortured or murdered a Christian at any time in history by beating the Christian with his heavy, slanderous Jew-books?

And which gentile’s death should I celebrate? I feel I’m missing a party, FOMO, or you just may be mistaken, again.

Metmom— support all you want. Vote for Religious conservatives (or go hard Trump like GPH.) Send Israel your money. (Send Chabad your money.) Or don’t— (G-d fearing) Jews appreciate support for sanity and fact, like the State of Israel being morally and legally correct in the way it conducts itself. And the religious Jews don’t even care if you long for the day, G-d forbid, that we convert. Just be clear that the appreciation for your support remains in the worldly domain and no further.

Jews wait for the Messiah to rectify the world. Christians wait for their second coming and have in the past (albeit not today) helped it along by murdering Jews— based on the beliefs of the Jew. Insanity.

Pray for me GPH, Metmom... Wait, don’t bother. I’ll pray for you.


33 posted on 06/12/2017 5:57:09 AM PDT by Phinneous (Moshiach Now!)
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To: Phinneous; metmom
From Israel Sahak, holocaust survivor and Jewish professor in Israel:

Apart from the fixed daily prayers, a devout Jew must utter special short blessings on various occasions, both good and bad (for example, while putting on a new piece of clothing. eating a seasonal fruit for the first time that year, seeing powerful lightning, hearing bad news, etc.) Some of these occasional prayers serve to inculcate hatred and scorn for all Gentiles, We have mentioned in Chapter 2 the rule according to which a pious Jew must utter a curse when passing near a Gentile cemetery, whereas he must bless God when passing near a Jewish cemetery. A similar rule applies to the living; thus, when seeing a large Jewish population a devout Jew must praise God, while upon seeing a large Gentile population he must utter a curse. Nor are buildings exempt: the Talmud lays down63 that a Jew who passes near an inhabited non-Jewish dwelling must ask God to destroy it, whereas if the building is in ruins he must thank the Lord of Vengeance. (Naturally, the rules are reversed for Jewish houses.) This rule was easy to keep for Jewish peasants who lived in their own villages or for small urban communities living in all-Jewish townships or quarters. Under the conditions of classical Judaism, however, it became impracticable and was therefore confined to churches and places of worship of other religions (except Islam).64 In this connection, the rule was further embroidered by custom: it became customary to spit (usually three times) upon seeing a church or a crucifix, as an embellishment to the obligatory formula of regret.65 Sometimes insulting biblical verses were also added.66

There is also a series of rules forbidding any expression of praise for Gentiles or for their deeds, except where such praise implies an even greater praise of Jews and things Jewish. This rule is still observed by Orthodox Jews. For example. the writer Agnon, when interviewed on the Israeli radio upon his return from Stockholm, where he received the Nobel Prize for literature, praised the Swedish Academy, but hastened to add: 'I am not forgetting that it is forbidden to praise Gentiles, but here there is a special reason for my praise' - that is, that they awarded the prize to a Jew.

https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jewhis5.htm

Admittedly, this example here is only referring to spitting at dead Christians, churches, crucifixes, etc. But here it is in practice, with the rampant spitting that ultra-orthodox Jews do:

Ultra-Orthodox young men curse and spit at Christian clergymen in the streets of Jerusalem's Old City as a matter of routine. In most cases the clergymen ignore the attacks, but sometimes they strike back. Last week the Jerusalem Magistrate's Court quashed the indictment against an Armenian priesthood student who had punched the man who spat at him.

read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/ultra-orthodox-spitting-attacks-on-old-city-clergymen-becoming-daily-1.393669

But you chose instead to defend the antisemitism as justified.

I didn't say anything like "gassing Jews is justified." It is simply a call for historical balance and religious truth. It is tiresome to always read about evil Christians and not the misbehavior of Talmudism's cultists, which are easily verifiable.

Christians didn’t just write about their hatred for Jews or their theological reasons for disagreeing with them— they tortured and murdered them.

Speaking of torture and murder, the Jews were the first religious terrorists. Jewish assassins in ancient times routinely stabbed innocent people, other Jews, politicians, anyone who disagreed with them, as they went about their day shopping. If they had ha bombs, they would have used them. Since they didn't have them, they depended on cloaks, crowds, and sharp knives. Later, Jews would massacre entire families of Gentiles, entire cities, or force prisoners to fight each other in gladiator battles, and not even for purely religious reasons.

Under Trajan, the Jews felt their pocket books threatened, since the cities Trajan was conquering happened to be, in essence, the lifeblood of Jewish money. After Trajan conquered the East, rich Jews worked the Jewish population into a frenzy, sparking rebellions in cities Trajan had already conquered in an attempt to undermine Trajan's war effort against the East.

According to ancient historians, the Jews nearly depopulated the regions they overthrew from Roman control:

"The Jews ... waged war on the inhabitants throughout Libya in the most savage fashion, and to such an extent was the country wasted that its cultivators having been slain, its land would have remained utterly depopulated, had not the Emperor Hadrian gathered settlers from other places and sent them thither, for the inhabitants had been wiped out."

– Orosius, Seven Books of History Against the Pagans, 7.12.6.

Of course, these are Romans we're talking about, not monks walking around in seedy ultra-orthodox areas of Jerusalem. The result was that Jews were practically wiped out in those regions in retaliation. Your average Roman citizen, once they got the better of their former Jewish tormentors, tore them to literal pieces.

We can go back and forth with the atrocity stories for as long as you like, but the conclusion will always be the same.

34 posted on 06/12/2017 6:34:25 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Phinneous; metmom
Before you puff up— yes, the aforementioned Talmudic teaching of Jesus boiling IS in the Talmud. FYI it’s next to the punishment of Bilam the sorcerer...boiling in feces. That is a teaching on the gravity of heresy, literal or metaphorical.

By the way, I forgot to comment on this, but another disturbing element of the Talmud is its obsession with semen, urine and feces. I think this really demonstrates the depravity of the Rabbis that their first instinct is, essentially, to resort to semi-sexual scatology as means to ridicule and attack their enemies. There are also bizarre commandments or medicinal remedies related to such things, such as the belief that eating mud from "around the shadow of a privy (toilet)" is supposed to cure ailments, or that a Jew should wait the amount of time it takes to walk a mile after having a pee before having sex, because otherwise a Demon will give your resulting child epilepsy.

I think such traditions can also safely rule out any possibility of the Talmud having any real, divine origins, but is merely the invention of demented, superstitious and legalistic men.

35 posted on 06/12/2017 6:59:52 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Phinneous
I vote very conservative. I don't think I could get more right of where I am.

I do pray for Israel also and join with the Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem threads.

Jews wait for the Messiah to rectify the world. Christians wait for their second coming and have in the past (albeit not today) helped it along by murdering Jews— based on the beliefs of the Jew. Insanity.

There is absolutely NO justification ever for murdering someone in the name of Christ.

EVER!!!!

One of Satan's biggest successes is getting people to commit atrocity in the name of God and besmirch His character.

FWIW, I also do not take seriously the slander against God that many atheists and God haters accuse Him of for eradicating some of the pagan nations around Israel during its history.

God never brings judgment without good reason and never brings it without giving people an opportunity to repent and turn to Him first.

The abominable practices of the Baal and Molech worshipers required their eradication. Much the same as islam today. The whole belief system needs to go. I actually feel for the normal everyday people who are trapped in that belief system and have to live with that kind of oppression.

Jihadists, OTOH, no sympathy.

38 posted on 06/12/2017 8:52:32 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Phinneous; Religion Moderator

I’m sorry that this antisemitic thread has popped up on the RF and humbly ask the RM to remove it as it is a stain on both the Christian message and on Free Republic. I ask you to forgive them for they know not what they do.


41 posted on 06/12/2017 10:58:33 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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