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What is the doctrine of the sufficiency of Scripture?
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Posted on 05/27/2017 9:15:17 AM PDT by ealgeone

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To: Elsie
Since you obviously don't know very much about the Blessed Virgin Mary and how She fits into salvation history, see:
The Witnesses are Here!
https://sites.google.com/view/thewitnessesarehere
Look for BMOF IV: MARY MOST HOLY-THE WOMAN
The more I know of Her as THE WOMAN, THE MOTHER OF THE CHRIST, the more blessed I feel as a nun being a spouse of Christ and having the first name of Mary. Her name should evoke love and not ridicule. We follow Her example and point always to Her Son, Jesus. She looks for no recognition as she is a creature like us. She well knows how much He loves us and wants us all with Him in Heaven. That wish is Her command.
301 posted on 05/29/2017 10:00:46 AM PDT by Little Blue Nun
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To: Mmmike
The Bible isn't designed to be understood, viz. the two variant genealogies of Jesus in Matthew and Luke, and the strange character portrayals of God and satan in Job.

And the people say what??

302 posted on 05/29/2017 10:18:00 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: mdmathis6
Just test my my words against 1 John 4!(exclamation point!).I have never said the eating of his flesh and drinking of his blood was absurd! Show me where I have said that! You have put words into my mouth! I think you are the one who is prevaricating!

Oh, that is RICH!

You systematize a portion of Scripture into a litmus test to litigate yourself innocent with all the alacrity of those who accused Christ of "harvesting," but getting you to demonstrate from Scripture how you know "born again" is foundational and "eat My Flesh" is ceremonial is like chasing a greased pig.

303 posted on 05/29/2017 3:18:58 PM PDT by papertyger (The semantics define how we think.)
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To: mdmathis6
Just test my my words against 1 John 4!(exclamation point!).I have never said the eating of his flesh and drinking of his blood was absurd! Show me where I have said that! You have put words into my mouth! I think you are the one who is prevaricating!

Oh, that is RICH!

You systematize a portion of Scripture into a litmus test to litigate yourself innocent with all the alacrity of those who accused Christ of "harvesting," but getting you to demonstrate from Scripture how you know "born again" is foundational and "eat My Flesh" is ceremonial is like chasing a greased pig.

304 posted on 05/29/2017 3:19:10 PM PDT by papertyger (The semantics define how we think.)
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To: mdmathis6
Just test my my words against 1 John 4!(exclamation point!).I have never said the eating of his flesh and drinking of his blood was absurd! Show me where I have said that! You have put words into my mouth! I think you are the one who is prevaricating!

Oh, that is RICH!

You can systematize a portion of Scripture into a litmus test to absolve yourself of wrongdoing with all the alacrity of those who accused Christ of "harvesting," but getting you to demonstrate from Scripture how you know "born again" is foundational and "eat My Flesh" is ceremonial is like catching a greased pig.

I'm done with your word games.

305 posted on 05/29/2017 3:29:08 PM PDT by papertyger (The semantics define how we think.)
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To: papertyger

The language of 1 John 4 is fairly black and white. You accuse me of being like Eliab but I have not accused you of “insolence and wickedness” but you have accused me of vanity. So if you think I am evil I invite you to test me against 1John 4. If there be fault in my dealings with you, my sins will find me out! There is no “system” other than it is a sure fire guide in testing for spiritual intent. I Michael Mathis do declare, indeed I publically proclaim that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, that he is God in flesh, the very Word that became Flesh and dwelt amongst men!

You have done the all the accusing of folks of decent character and wisdom on this thread!

I only accuse you of being one thing; of being a true paper tiger! As for me, I can never hide behind a pseudonym on matters important such as this! The angels of heaven record all we do!


306 posted on 05/29/2017 4:54:28 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: mdmathis6

Mirror mirror
on the wall...

https://youtu.be/uPKhKN_gjzc


307 posted on 05/29/2017 7:16:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone
The Bible is designed to be understood.

It sure is!

Understood by the TEACHINGS of the One True Church.

Explained according to Rome's interpretation.

Added to by wonderful Tradition.

I've NO idea where you Prots think that YOU can understand the deep things of GOD without help!

--Catholic_Wannabe_Dude(Hail Mary!!)


PS: Do you need any help,understaning the following?



2 Corinthians 1:13-14  NIV
13. For we do not write you anything you cannot read or understand. And I hope that,
14. as you have understood us in part, you will come to understand fully that you can boast of us just as we will boast of you in the day of the Lord Jesus.

308 posted on 05/29/2017 7:23:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone
Uh; I think I just posted the wrong Scripture.

--Catholic_Wannabe_Dude(Hail Mary!!)



309 posted on 05/29/2017 7:24:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mmmike
I'd expect a fundamentalist to make an interpretation anyway, probably in a dogmatic tone.

Oh?

Kinda like...

...a CATHOLIC to rattle off an interpretation of Rome in absolute and dictatorial tone?

310 posted on 05/29/2017 7:26:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Little Blue Nun
She looks for no recognition as she is a creature like us.

LBN; you should READ the stuff that Rome's 'MARY' has proclaimed!!!


 




The 15 promises

(Given to St. Dominic and Blessed Alan de la Roche)

1 Whoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall receive powerful graces.
2. I promise my special protection and the greatest graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary.
3. The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against hell, it will destroy vice, decrease sin, and defeat heresies
4. It will cause virtue and good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of people from the love of the world and its vanities, and will lift them to the desire of eternal things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means.
5. The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish.
6. Whoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying Himself to the consideration of its Sacred Mysteries shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise Him in His justice, he shall not perish by an unprovided death; if he be just, he shall remain in the grace of God, and become worthy of eternal life.
7. Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the Sacraments of the Church.
8. Those who are faithful to recite the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the light of God and the plentitude of His graces; at the moment of death they shall participate in the merits of the Saints in Paradise.
9. I  shall deliver from purgatory those who have been devoted to the Rosary.
10. The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit a high degree of glory in Heaven.
11. You shall obtain all you ask of me by the recitation of the Rosary.
12. All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities.
13. I  have obtained from my Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire celestial court during their life and at the hour of death
14. All who recite the Rosary are my children, and brothers and sisters of my only Son, Jesus Christ.
15. Devotion of my Rosary is a great sign of predestination.

 

"The Most Holy Virgin in these last times in which we live has given a new efficacy to the recitation of the Rosary to such an extent that there is no problem,

no matter how difficult it is, wheter temporal or above all spiritual, in the personal life of each one of us, of our families...that cannot be solved by the Rosary.

There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we cannot resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary."

Sister Lucia dos Santos

311 posted on 05/29/2017 7:29:14 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: papertyger
..."eat My Flesh" is ceremonial....

HUH?

It is OBVIOUSLY cannibalistic!

312 posted on 05/29/2017 7:30:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Little Blue Nun
Since you obviously don't know very much about the Blessed Virgin Mary and how She fits into salvation history,

Mary was chosen to give birth to Christ. She raised Jesus as a boy and saw Him grow to be a man.

She saw Him crucified.

She saw Him resurrected.

She died.

313 posted on 05/29/2017 8:10:54 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Elsie; ealgeone

If you won’t take it from me, please take it from the Holy Spirit Who inspired the Bible. St. Luke 1:26~55. St. Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit and you strain out a gnat and swallow a camel.


314 posted on 05/29/2017 9:12:25 PM PDT by Little Blue Nun
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To: Elsie

.....show me my faults
one and all..
to go too far
I must beware
and slip off the narrow age old path
and find myself encumbered...
in Vanity Fair
(with attributions made to Bunyan’s Pilgrim’s Progress)


315 posted on 05/29/2017 10:22:21 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Little Blue Nun
...you strain out a gnat and swallow a camel.

Oh?

You've claimed this: She looks for no recognition as she is a creature like us.

I gave PROOF that you are wrong.

And you have the gall to call it a GNAT? Trying to wave it away as though it is NOTHING?


Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit
 
So?
What is it that is supposed to be so revealing in the Scriptures you refer to?
 
 
 
 
Luke 1:26-55  (NIV)

The Birth of Jesus Foretold

26 In the sixth month of Elizabeth’s pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 27 to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. 28 The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.”

29 Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. 30 But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God. 31 You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33 and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.”

34 “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”

35 The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called[a] the Son of God. 36 Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be unable to conceive is in her sixth month. 37 For no word from God will ever fail.”

38 “I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May your word to me be fulfilled.” Then the angel left her.

Mary Visits Elizabeth

39 At that time Mary got ready and hurried to a town in the hill country of Judea, 40 where she entered Zechariah’s home and greeted Elizabeth. 41 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. 42 In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! 43 But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. 45 Blessed is she who has believed that the Lord would fulfill his promises to her!”

Mary’s Song

46 And Mary said:

“My soul glorifies the Lord
47     and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,
48 for he has been mindful
    of the humble state of his servant.
From now on all generations will call me blessed,
49     for the Mighty One has done great things for me—
    holy is his name.
50 His mercy extends to those who fear him,
    from generation to generation.
51 He has performed mighty deeds with his arm;
    he has scattered those who are proud in their inmost thoughts.
52 He has brought down rulers from their thrones
    but has lifted up the humble.
53 He has filled the hungry with good things
    but has sent the rich away empty.
54 He has helped his servant Israel,
    remembering to be merciful
55 to Abraham and his descendants forever,
    just as he promised our ancestors.”


316 posted on 05/30/2017 4:25:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
Thank you for affirming your Bible was settled at council 1600 years ago.

No, thank you. This means that there is the inerrant and infallible writing and then there is all the rest. So what comes from the Pope's chair cannot and never will be infallible. It was for this very reason the early fathers sealed the scriptures.

What the Council of Trent did 1000 years later by adding additional text confirms the heresy of the Catholic Church.

317 posted on 05/30/2017 8:09:52 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD
In post 246, you wrote you accepted the canon decision 1600 years ago. "The book was closed 1600 years ago on what constituted the “sacred scriptures” and every verse, every line is complete for my teaching and edification. "


318 posted on 05/30/2017 8:36:06 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

Yes, the early fathers made a clear distinction as to what was the sacred scriptures. Today the church elevates other writings to the same level. Tsk, tsk...


319 posted on 05/30/2017 8:54:08 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD

Thank you for written word confirming “five books of Solomon, the books of the twelve prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezechiel, Daniel, Tobit, Judith, Esther, two books of Esdras, two Books of the Maccabees” are part of the Old Testament canon.


320 posted on 05/30/2017 9:04:32 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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