Monsignor Pope Ping!
Jesus told us about Hell. More important, He told us about Heaven and how He made it possible for us to live there with Him forever. Praise the Lord.
No heresy of our day is more widespread or pernicious than the denial of hell, its existence, and its sad frequency. I use quotes around the word only because I, as a simple priest, do not have the power to declare formal heresy. However, heresy in a broader, more descriptive sense simply means picking and choosing among revealed truth. Confronted with truths that are in some tension (such as Gods justice vs. His mercy or human freedom vs. Gods sovereignty) the heretic chooses one and throws out the other in order to resolve the tension. Orthodoxy says both but heresy picks one and discards the other.
Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. The essence of fear is 1) your life is on the balance, and 2) you are not in control of the situation. In the presence of God you can only claim mercy in the name of Jesus. YOU BRING NOTHING TO THE TABLE.
ONLY when one begins to understand Holy and Just can one understand mercy and love.
God must be just, he does not have to be merciful.
Which description is part of the problem, since while Hell and the Lake of Fire is separation from God, it is not simply the absence of God but the proactive wrath of God. For the Lord did not say,
"And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into eternal separation from God in hell," but "into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched." (Mark 9:45-46)
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; (2 Thessalonians 1:8-9)
No heresy of our day is more widespread or pernicious than the denial of hell, its existence, and its sad frequency.
But true to form, he excludes Rome from being guilty of the denial of the its existence of Hell as described in Scripture and its frequency therein.
At the General Audience of Wednesday, 28 July 1999, the Holy Father reflected on hell as the definitive rejection of God. In his catechesis, the Pope said that care should be taken to interpret correctly the images of hell in Sacred Scripture, and explained that "hell is the ultimate consequence of sin itself... Rather than a place, hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy ".
By using images, the New Testament presents the place destined for evildoers as a fiery furnace, where people will "weep and gnash their teeth" (Mt 13:42; cf. 25:30, 41), or like Gehenna with its "unquenchable fire" (Mk 9:43). All this is narrated in the parable of the rich man...
[Which is not a parable, in which real names are never used, and which employs known physical realities which correspond to spiritual realities, but her real names are used and it is a stretch to make the rich man in Hell correspond to some mere spiritual reality that is not that of the afterlife and Hell.
[And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. (Luke 16:23-25) ]
The images of hell that Sacred Scripture presents to us must be correctly interpreted. They show the complete frustration and emptiness of life without God. Rather* than a place, hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy. This is how the Catechism of the Catholic Church summarizes the truths of faith on this subject: "To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God's merciful love means remaining separated from him for ever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called 'hell'" (n. 1033). https://www.ewtn.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2HEAVN.HTM, emp. mine
[Once again, the Biblical description is of a location, and not self-exclusion from communion with God from God and absence of anything good, but of a place of varying degrees of proactive torment.
As for frequency,
At Pope Benedict XVIs question and answer session with priests from his diocese last Thursday, one cleric told the Pope he was concerned that the catechism of the Italian bishops conference never mentions hell or purgatory, and speaks of heaven only once. With these essential parts of the creed missing, the priest asked, doesnt it seem to you that the redemption of Christ falls apart?
In reply, the Pope called heaven, hell, and purgatory fundamental themes that unfortunately appear rarely in our preaching, journalist and church expert Sandro Magister reports.
Pope Benedict speculated that the condemned might not be numerous, describing how thoroughly they would have to have destroyed themselves:
Perhaps there are not so many who have destroyed themselves so completely, who are irreparable forever, who no longer have any element upon which the love of God can rest, who no longer have the slightest capacity to love within themselves. This would be hell. ("What the Pope really said about Hell," Feb 11, 2008; http://www.catholicnewsagency.com)/news/what_the_pope_really_said_about_hell, emp. mine
In contrast, it is "few there be" that enter into life via the narrow road, while those in Hell may have love and compassion as the rich man in Hell evidenced by pleading for Lazarus to warn his 5 brethren "lest they also come into this place of torment."
Texts on Hell and Judgment
While the priest may somewhat sound like a fundamentalist on Hell, he is out of his league, and misses one of the foremost test in Hell-fire:
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; (2 Thessalonians 1:7-9)
And (which goes with Mt. 25:41,46),
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. (Revelation 20:10)
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:13-15)
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. (Revelation 14:9-11)
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. (Matthew 13:41-43)
We ALL deserve hell. We are sinful to our core, no matter how much we dont want to be. God is holy and righteous snd can not be in the presence of sin. None of us are worth of eternity with Him. But he gave us a way. He put all our sin on his Son Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. All we have to is confess Jesus is our Lord and Savior and believe in our heart God raised him from the dead, and then when we confess our sins and repent, God will cleanse us of our sin by the blood shed by His Son. Then we can inherit the kingdom of God.
God gives us a simple choice. If you reject his Son, God will reject you anf the cost will be eternal separation from God in the lake of fire. If you recieve his Son and repent of your sins, you are then a child of God by way of His Son, Jesus Christ.
Why did He NOT warn us about LIMBO?
Or PURGATORY?
Mormons;apparently; do NOT have to worry about these warnings...
Mormonism really doesn't HAVE a 'hell'.
AFTERLIFE: The Mormon afterlife is divided up into four levels. From the lowest to the highest they are: hell, and then three levels of heaven: the telestial, the terrestrial, and the place where God dwells, the celestial (also called the kingdom of God). The celestial is also divided, the highest level being "exaltation," or becoming a God.
HEAVEN-The Mormon church teaches there are three levels of heaven (three "degrees of glory"):
HELL: A place of torment from which the worst of sinners are resurrected (if they repent) into the Telestial kingdom; only a limited number remain in hell forever, - the devil and the demons and apostates who consciously reject and work against Mormonism.
Mormonism has taught that those in the Telestial kingdom will have paid for their own sins in spirit prison, a temporary hell which serves as a place of purging before entrance into heaven (cf. D&C 138: 58-59).
Orson F. Whitney preached:
"But those who reject the Gospel altogether and are besotted and crimestained---what of them? It is written that they will be thrust down to hell; even the murderer, the liar, the sorcerer, and the whoremonger. They will, in short, be damned. But they will only be damned to the extent justified by their sins. Even for them there is hope, after they have 'paid the uttermost farthing.' They will be punished, as all men must be, for neglect of duty, for transgression of the laws of God; but after they have been punished sufficiently, they will be brought forth and saved in a glory of which the stars in heaven are typical." ("The Three Great Teachers", May 8, 1898; Brian H. Stuy, ed., Collected Discourses 1886-1898, v. 5)
Chapter 41 of the 2009 Gospel Principles manual quotes D&C 19 and concurs the same:
"Also in the spirit prison are those who rejected the gospel after it was preached to them on earth or in the spirit prison. These spirits suffer in a condition known as hell. They have removed themselves from the mercy of Jesus Christ, who said, 'Behold, I, God, have suffered these things for all, that they might not suffer if they would repent; but if they would not repent they must suffer even as I; which suffering caused myself, even God, the greatest of all, to tremble because of pain, and to bleed at every pore, and to suffer both body and spirit' (D&C 19:16-18). After suffering in full for their sins, they will be allowed, through the Atonement of Jesus Christ, to inherit the lowest degree of glory, which is the telestial kingdom" (Gospel Principles, 2009, p. 244).
"Now, it may be contended that a judgment, with some degree of salvation for all, encourages the sinner to pursue his dark ways. Not so. However generous the judgment, it is measured by our works. Our punishment will be the heavy regret that we might have received a greater reward, a higher kingdom, had our lives conformed more nearly to truth. Such remorse may yield keener pain than physical torture." (Understandable Religion, p. 89)
While Widtsoe is careful not to call a heavenly kingdom "hell", he is nonetheless certain that there will be a keen regret for lost opportunities:
"Humanity will be grouped according to their works in three main divisions: Celestial (like the sun), Telestial (like the moon), Terrestrial (like the earth). Within each group there will be many gradations and divisions, until from the lowest to the highest in all groups there will be a series of gradually ascending glories. There can be no talk of a hell, except for the few 'sons of Perdition,' but undoubtedly the regret for lost opportunities will be keen among those in the lower degrees of glory." (Program of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, p. 226)
Joseph Fielding Smith, on the other hand, considers the tormenting regret experienced in the bottom two heavenly kingdoms and concludes "in that sense it will be hell":
"This earth will become a celestial kingdom when it is sanctified. Those who enter the terrestrial kingdom will have to go to some other sphere which will be prepared for them. Those who enter the telestial kingdom, likewise will have to go to some earth which is prepared for them, and there will be another place which is hell where the devil and those who are punished to go with him will dwell. Of course, those who enter the telestial kingdom, and those who enter the terrestrial kingdom will have the eternal punishment which will come to them in knowing that they might, if they had kept the commandments of the Lord, have returned to his presence as his sons and his daughters. This will be a torment to them, and in that sense it will be hell." (Answers to Gospel Questions, v. 2, p. 210)
This line of thinking is interesting in light of Joseph Smith's following teaching:
"A man is his own tormenter and his own condemner. Hence the saying, They shall go into the lake that burns with fire and brimstone. The torment of disappointment in the mind of man is as exquisite as a lake burning with fire and brimstone" (TPJS, p. 357)
The entry in the Encyclopedia of Mormonism on "Damnation" essentially explains that the bottom two kingdoms of heaven are kingdoms of damnation:
"Just as there are varying degrees and types of salvation, coupled with eternal progression in some areas (D&C 76:96-98; 131:1-4), so are there varying degrees and types of damnation. In LDS doctrine, to be damned means to be stopped, blocked, or limited in one's progress. Individuals are damned whenever they are prevented from reaching their full potential as children of God. Damnation is falling short of what one might have enjoyed if one had received and been faithful to the whole law of the gospel. In this sense, all who do not achieve the highest degree of the Celestial Kingdom are damned, even though they are saved in some degree of glory."
http://www.mrm.org/heaven-and-hell#Hell
There’s much more about Hell than there is Heaven in the Bible.
Bm
Ummmmmm....if we SIMPLY REFUSE TO OBEY because of our "free will", then at what point in time do we ever obey? We refuse to obey because of our evil nature and nothing will ever change that unless God changes our hearts.
Joh 1:12-13 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
We are born again not because of our will because of God's will.
The Catholics have left sound gospel teaching long ago. Protestants are heading down this road.
Amen, brother.
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