Posted on 05/22/2017 7:51:58 AM PDT by Salvation
I see nothing in the Bible that suggests that there is perpetual seat in Rome, and the church that Rome separated from in 1054 did not see the Roman bishop as Pontifix Maximus either.
There is plenty of scriptural evidence, and not just that, but history itself shows it as true.
being that, as ive said on other threads, the catholic church doesnt just rest on scripture, but on the ‘three legged stool’ of scripture, sacred tradition and the teaching church, that all compliment and affirm each other, including the succession of popes.
you limit yourself to your understanding of the word of God as opposed to the way God gave you, i.e. the teaching church, along with Sacred Tradition and the Word.
how do you think anyone learned anything back in the days, weeks, months or years after Christ ascended back to heaven?
there were no bibles, pretty much no one could read...there was only one method, a teaching church that encompassed the 3 legged stool i mentioned above.
and it still works today
I will leave the last word to you.
You obviously must not know what I know of the actual history (not to be confused with how *some* Roman Catholics typically prefer to massage that same history).
If it works as you say it does, why did Rome schism from the church in 1054? Shouldn’t the “three legged stool” be sufficient to keep the church universally united?
To whom did Christ give the keys to the Kingdom?
It’s in the Bible.........He gave them to Peter.
This means Christ chose Peter as the leader of his Church after his Ascension.
If Rome wants to argue tradition, their claim pales in comparison to the tradition of the EO.
Rome did not separate from the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic and FIRST Church founded by Christ on the apostles, the first Bishops.
Where are you getting your strange ideas?
It was also James' final decision that was used.
... the Church split along doctrinal, theological, linguistic, political, and geographical lines, and the fundamental breach has never been healed, with each side sometimes accusing the other of having fallen into heresy and of having initiated the division.
Or is this not in your history book?
**The Church—Catholic from the start!**
‘and then along comes Mareee...uheee!...’
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7m59Njt_jNE
What is RF?
Peter ran the meeting. James added a little bit at the end. Did you watch the video?
So are you Eastern Orthodox?
You post here all the time and not seen RF as an abbreviation for Religion Forum?
Is it relevant to what I have said?
Are we reading Acts 15??
Did you actually read the text??
6The apostles and the elders came together to look into this matter.
7After there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them,
“Brethren, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles would hear the word of the gospel and believe.
(btw....those are the keys)
8“And God, who knows the heart, testified to them giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He also did to us; 9and He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith. 10“Now therefore why do you put God to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? 11“But we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they also are.” (salvation through faith...a guaranteed salvation)
12All the people kept silent, and they were listening to Barnabas and Paul as they were relating what signs and wonders God had done through them among the Gentiles.
13After they had stopped speaking, James answered, saying,
“Brethren, listen to me. 14“Simeon has related how God first concerned Himself about taking from among the Gentiles a people for His name. 15“With this the words of the Prophets agree, just as it is written, 16‘AFTER THESE THINGS I will return, AND I WILL REBUILD THE TABERNACLE OF DAVID WHICH HAS FALLEN, AND I WILL REBUILD ITS RUINS, AND I WILL RESTORE IT, 17SO THAT THE REST OF MANKIND MAY SEEK THE LORD, AND ALL THE GENTILES WHO ARE CALLED BY MY NAME,’ 18SAYS THE LORD, WHO MAKES THESE THINGS KNOWN FROM LONG AGO.
19“Therefore it is my judgment
that we do not trouble those who are turning to God from among the Gentiles, 20but that we write to them that they abstain from things contaminated by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood. 21“For Moses from ancient generations has in every city those who preach him, since he is read in the synagogues every Sabbath.”
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