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should We Still Keep the Commandments?
Westside Christian Fellowshihp ^ | July 20, 2016 | Shane Idleman

Posted on 03/18/2017 7:11:14 AM PDT by metmom

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To: editor-surveyor
IF you are ever born from above, you will see the Bible passages which tell us we are born from above when we trust in the One God has sent for our salvation. That is emphasized with two passages, at least, the section in Acts where more than three thousand received the Holy Spirit BECAUSE they had been just then born from above by believing in Jesus Whom Peter preached to them, and in the House of Cornelius with the same Holy Spirit coming into the believers, even before they were baptized.

You keep repeating the lie that your keeping Torah will get you eternal salvation, when even you know you are not able to 100% keep Torah. So we see that it is actually your malignant self-pride driving your assertions, as if you could do what you keep chilling us for not doing like you and your false prophet, Michael Rood assert. Keep it up and God will send to you strong delusion ... if you're not already trapped under it.

281 posted on 03/23/2017 11:58:20 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Elsie

The hypotenuse at 5 across and three down reveals the difference in angle of the altered right triangle. With one the hypotenuse passes just below the lower right corner of the square at 5A3D. with the tricked hypotenuse the line passes through that lower right corner.


282 posted on 03/23/2017 12:02:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

https://youtu.be/R4GLAKEjU4w

Timeline 0:37


283 posted on 03/23/2017 3:44:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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should We Still Keep the Commandments?

Here is a link to Zola Levitt's
study of the 10 commandments.

Hebrew meanings insight for understanding

link here

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
284 posted on 03/23/2017 6:42:25 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: BipolarBob

Mosaic Law written on papyrus by Moses’ own hand.
Ten Commandments written on stone by our Lord.
Levitical Law carried outside the Ark.
Ten Commandments placed inside the Ark.

My Saturdays are dedicated to my relationship with my Lord. However, I attend a Sunday church because it is close by and there are many opportunities to work in different ministries. I meet other Christians who are Sabbath keepers and also go to a Sunday church. Good thing we have the whole weekend off from work! LOL


285 posted on 03/25/2017 2:52:24 PM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: SisterK

God bless you SisterK.


286 posted on 03/25/2017 3:26:28 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I've wasted enough time eating mushrooms and conversing with hookah smoking caterpillars.)
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To: BipolarBob

Happy Sabbath to you, Bob.


287 posted on 03/25/2017 4:30:06 PM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: MHGinTN

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Your first sentence is an accusation that Yeshua is a liar.

“Born from above” is man made dissonance.

Keeping Torah is the keeping of what is written on your heart.

There is no salvation possible without the keeping of what has been written on your heart. There is also no salvation possible before the Day of Trumpets is blown by Yeshua’s Trumpet.

Very little of your “doctrine” is anything but man made. Your doctrine is simply the result of relying on your personal “idios ipsolusos.”
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288 posted on 03/28/2017 4:42:57 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: BipolarBob

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Your ideas are based in the concoctions of men. In essence, you are a pharisee of your own making.

If you are having difficulty with Torah to the extent that you claim, it is simply due to the many barriers you have erected to the Spirit of Yeshua.
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289 posted on 03/28/2017 4:50:59 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Your ideas are based in the concoctions of men.

They aren't my ideas. They are my beliefs that come from the Word of God.

If you are having difficulty with Torah

The only one having trouble with the Torah is YOU. It was given in consequence of sin. (Lev. 3-7) It made nothing perfect (Heb 7:19) Pointed to the sacrifice of Christ (2:14-17) It was abolished by Christ (Eph 2:15) It concerns material things - meats, drinks, washings (Heb 9:10 ) It was nailed to the cross by Christ (Col 2:14) You said it was NOT spoken by Moses (post #241) and I gave verses showing that it was indeed. You're two thousand years late to the party, pal. It's over. On to the NEW.

290 posted on 03/28/2017 5:36:48 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I've wasted enough time eating mushrooms and conversing with hookah smoking caterpillars.)
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To: BipolarBob

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So you believe that Yeshua lied. He said that Torah is the standard of obedience for as long as the creation exists (Mat 5)

Your stated beliefs are nowhere to be found in the word.
Torah was not nailed to the cross; that was the Pharisees’ burdensome ordinances that were nailed to the cross.

You suffer with all of the lies that “christianity” invented in the mid 4th century to cancel Yeshua’s earthly ministry, and obliterate his narrow path.

The strong delusion that you advocate has hooks in your jaws. That delusion will be embedded in all who find it more pleasurable than Yeshua’s way.
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291 posted on 03/29/2017 9:09:09 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
So you believe that Yeshua lied. He said that Torah is the standard of obedience for as long as the creation exists (Mat 5)

No He didn't lie. He said the Law. The question YOU are confused on is which law. The Torah had a beginning and an END. A strong delusion has made you a modern Pharisee. The Ten Commandments started with Creation and will last for an eternity. That is the Law which standeth forever not the temporary law which was abolished. My stated beliefs are in the Bible but the mote in your eye obscures it.

292 posted on 03/29/2017 9:49:53 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I've wasted enough time eating mushrooms and conversing with hookah smoking caterpillars.)
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To: editor-surveyor

You spittled out, “Your first sentence is an accusation that Yeshua is a liar.” (from post #281) Then you literally dismissed what JESUS told to Nicodemus in John 3! You are pitiful to behold.


293 posted on 03/30/2017 9:41:30 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN; editor-surveyor
Perhaps E-S imagines himself a kamikaze at Pearl Harbor? He keeps shouting "Torah! Torah! Torah!".

jk

294 posted on 03/30/2017 6:48:29 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I've wasted enough time eating mushrooms and conversing with hookah smoking caterpillars.)
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To: BipolarBob

LOL


295 posted on 03/30/2017 7:07:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN
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What Yeshua told Nicodemus is future for all who will be saved At the Last Trump.

It has absolutely nothing to do with our present life, other wise we would be able to pass invisibly through a room leaving only the evidence of the wind as he plainly indicated to Nicodemus.

He was literally speaking of a new birth of a new body as a Son of Yehova, rather than as a flesh and blood son of man.

Read your Bible without dispy distorted lenses!
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296 posted on 03/31/2017 7:24:17 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: BipolarBob

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Or perhaps you are just as goofy as the stuff you post?
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297 posted on 03/31/2017 7:25:53 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: BipolarBob

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Your utter confusion is impenetrable until you pray for revelation of what you presently refuse to know.

It’ll cost you friends, but get you closer to the promise of eternal life that is presently out of reach to all who practice the lawlessness that you advocate. (the “other” gospel)
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298 posted on 03/31/2017 7:33:43 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

If you could read the greek of John 3 or find someone to read it to you with prcise English translation, you would perhaps not make a fool of yourself repeating Roodian foolishness like your first sentence. Rood has you enthralled ... look up the full meaning of enthrall.


299 posted on 04/01/2017 10:50:26 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: editor-surveyor
Here is a clue for you, Pharisee wannabe:

A promise of God is not bound by dimension time, it is true in a way that transcends time. You seek, or rather your false prophet, Rood, seeks to parse scripture, to attack the basic truths in order to wedge in his empowerment scheme over folks so lazy that they will not ask God to teach them the Truth and instead follow like blind dogs the false teaching of men like Rood. When Jesus told Nicodemus, "That’s the way it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit,” {John 3:8} Jesus uses a verb tense showing the action is in the present, noit some future event.

300 posted on 04/01/2017 11:19:07 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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