Posted on 03/14/2017 11:16:36 AM PDT by Gamecock
Don’t blame Creflo. Blame Satan for causing you to go Catholic.
Creflo Dollar, aptly named, once said (I heard it), “God WANTS me to have that jet”.
I’m sure He would rather you spend God’s money on a jet for yourself instead of on sick starving children /SARC!
“Creflo or Catholic” is a choice of extremes with a broad gulf between them. Cashflow Dollar ordains his wife to keep the church’s money in the family, while Rome forbids the marriage of its priests to keep their families’ money in the church. Albert Little simply jumped from the skillet to the oven, poor guy.
The Bible (1 Cor 15:2) talks about “believing in vain”. Where is that in your picture?
That makes no sense whatsoever.
I agree wholeheartedly.
Yes, perhaps they should sell all the art collected over the centuries to George Soros. All of the hospitals, schools and orphanages should also go because Jesus did not care about the poor.
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All he's done is trade one error for a really, really big error.
If you mean the ekklesia...then yes.
If you mean the Roman Catholic Church then no.
The rest are like scattered and poisonous mushrooms that range from the teachings of Creflo Dollar, Rev. Moon, Rev. Jeremiah Wright to modern day Joel Osteens and Billy Grahams.
You mean like your current Pope?
Pius IX?
Pius XII?
Urban II?
One could imagine Crefflo doing a Tetzel spiel: “As the coin in the coffer rings, the soul from Purgatory springs!”
LOL!
But hell is a little late for conversion and AC.
http://www.twoagespilgrims.com/doctrine/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Roman-Catholic-Salvation-Flow-Chart.jpg
Saved!
“big-name preachers like televangelist Creflo Dollar are what pushed him”
Perhaps the fact that a guy who chose to change his name in order to honor his true god—money—should have given him a clue. His birth name was Michael Smith.
“it would be accurate to say that the possibility of theological interpretations like Dollar’s are, in large part, what’s driven me”
The Apostles and Christ warned us there would be false teachers who come in the name of Jesus and twist scripture. The Bible tells us how to avoid being deceived.
“I read my Bible, ask the Holy Spirit for help to interpret, and come to a conclusion. This is exactly what Creflo Dollar’s done”
Obviously not. Dollar may claim to hear from God. We are responsible to “test the spirits” because “many false prophets have gone out into the world”. (See 1 John 4:1.)
“wrestled with the question of who has authority over Scripture, and ultimately whose interpretation he can really trust, Little said that his search... led him to the Catholic Church”
This is worse than heretics like Dollar. Dollar merely claims his message is from God and consistent with the Bible. All you have to do to avoid his error is check the Bible for yourself.
Acts 17:11
These were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so.
Event he apostles did not claim authority above the scriptures. They advocated to check out what they claimed to be sure it was consistent with the scriptures.
In Christ’s day, who had supposed authority of scriptures? Obviously, the religious leaders. Yet they were the ones that had Christ murdered. They had no such authority. Being a scribe (copier) or pharisee (teacher) of the scripture never meant they had authority over the scripture.
No. Jesus rebuked them BECAUSE they thought they had authority above the scriptures.
Mark 7:13
Making the word of God of no effect through your tradition which you have handed down. And many such things you do.
Who does this today?
Apostolic authority did give us the New Testament scriptures. This means that their message had equal authority with the scriptures because it was the word of God. They did not have authority above the scriptures. These same apostles warned of false teachers, false prophets, and false apostles. The scriptures which the apostles left us to know the truth also tell us how to identify true apostolic authority so we can test it.
Revelation 2:2
I know your works, your labor, your patience, and that you cannot bear those who are evil. And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars.
The Roman Catholic Church claims apostolic authority while refusing to acknowledge the authority of scripture. It does not meet the biblical qualifications for apostolic authority, nor do any of its leaders. These include having been personally taught Jesus, being an eye witness of His resurrection, and having performed confirming miracles after proclaiming the Gospel message personally entrusted to them.
And even if anyone could step forward with such credentials today, he would still be subject to having his message validated by searching the scripture, just as the original apostles were.
“The Catholic Church, which asserts that Jesus didn’t leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.”
Wrong. Christ loved His Church and gave His life for the Church. This church is not some hierarchal system made of buildings, catechisms, shrines, statues, reserved to a few special people. The Church is ALL people redeemed by the blood of Christ, who have received His gift of salvation by faith. The Church is the PEOPLE.
The true Church can and does objectively determine the valid interpretation and meaning of the scriptures through the guidance of the Holy Spirit who indwells us as a GROUP. No one member of this group has “private interpretation” even if he claims to be the successor of Peter on earth. When members of the body of Christ are led by the Holy Spirit, they collectively understand scripture. They collectively correct error. Christ is the head of the body. This body is not a monster, so it has one and only one Head. That is Christ.
“an authority structure that we can see clearly in the New Testament”
The authority structure is clearly LOCAL. Local elders made leadership decisions for their local church. For issues that were too difficult and had not yet been resolved before the New Testament was completed, they sent letters to the apostles. And the apostles answered them with letters. These letters comprise most of the New Testament. Today elders can consult the apostles by opening their Bibles. And congregants can also check out their Bible to be sure that what they are being taught is biblical.
Is that all?
Clear as mud!
We don’t talk personalities and individual frailties of either popes or televangelists or ourselves. For sure, I am a sinner.
However, we are talking doctrine here. Please stick to the subject.
The books in the Bible were identified by the Catholic Church in the Council of Rome circa AD 380. Not some vague ekklesia.
Thank you.
Changing one poor theology for another isn’t the solution.
Which means he has swallowed the Kool-Aid, while for every Cleflo there are sound men of integrity, past and present, to read, and this apostate has no excuse for choosing an entity which is distinctively missing in the light of the NT church, and much contrary to it .
Quite the chart.
No, the Lord's Supper is NOT the Mass , which presumes that the Lord’s supper was the supreme central ritual of the NT church in which a separate class of sacerdotal priests offers the “real body and blood of Christ” as sacrifice for sins, under the appearance of bread and wine, until they begin to decay, but which “really” ceased to exist anyway!
From Acts thru Rev. nowhere does the Holy Spirit even describe the NT pastors as being this separate class of sacerdotal priests, nor them conducting the Lord’s supper, nor as it having the royal centrality as in Catholicism. And and instead all that we see is believers obeying “ this [communal commemorative ritual meal] do ye in remembrance of me.” (1Co. 11:24)
Rather than the Catholic metaphysical fantasy, which is not even a face value literal understanding of the words at the Lord's supper, only the metaphorical understanding easily conflates with the rest of Scripture, and John in particular.
As can be shown, by God's grace.
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