[JesusIsLord]

The Pope said, Catholics and Lutherans can together deplore the failures of the Reformation on both sides, as well as appreciating the many gifts which we have received from it.

It would be interesting to see the list of "failures on both sides" that both Catholic and Lutheran churches would agree to.

Catholic Freepers - "what Catholic failures identified by the Reformation, would you cite?"

Lutheran Freepers - "what Lutheran failures associated with the Reformation, would you cite?"

These are serious questions. If you're intent is to be critical of a church other than your own - please don't post.

[kearnyirish2]

As a Catholic: The sale of indulgences.

[hinckley buzzard]

The Vatican was totally corrupt and the popes, the Medici and Borgia popes, were depraved and dissolute. (Leo X, whom Luther opposed, was a Medici; Alexander VI, who had Savonarola burned, was a Borgia. His daughter Lucrecia even sat on the papal throne for a time.

Luther became arrogant, ended up calling the papacy the "antichrist," and became a virulent antisemite by the end of his life.