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To: Repent and Believe
The “Second Vatican Council” was essentially a protest and rebellion against the church. In it for example six heretic protestants were invited by Rome as advisers. Traditional (true) Catholics on the other hand are not joining the protest.

And yet, your college of cardinals voted in this pope, just like all the rest.

Again the questions remain which I don't recall seeing answers to.

Does the Holy Spirit guide the college of cardinals in selecting the pope?

And

How is allowing popes like Francis an example of the Holy Spirit protecting the church from error in faith or morals as you guys always claim?

405 posted on 01/11/2017 4:41:06 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

R&B:

The “Second Vatican Council” was essentially a protest and rebellion against the church. In it for example six heretic protestants were invited by Rome as advisers. Traditional (true) Catholics on the other hand are not joining the protest.

metmom:

And yet, your college of cardinals voted in this pope, just like all the rest.

Again the questions remain which I don’t recall seeing answers to.

Does the Holy Spirit guide the college of cardinals in selecting the pope?

And

How is allowing popes like Francis an example of the Holy Spirit protecting the church from error in faith or morals as you guys always claim?

R&B:

The college of cardinals like Judas, fell into apostasy. This is nothing new, it is just more intense, which Jesus predicted in the last days.

As I’ve stated before, “Francis” is not a true pope. That is how “us guys” can always claim the Holy Spirit protects the church from error.

The papacy continues, and the Holy Spirit enlivens the church even though Jesus ascended into heaven. How does the papacy continue? The acts of all true popes remain in our tradition, and are to be followed by the faithful. If we are faithful to the last known true pope we are off to a good start. The papacy lives on. There is a gap in the physical papacy every time a pontiff dies, by the way.

Again the recent college of cardinals and their electees are not Catholic or are apostates and heretics. Their manifest heresy de facto removes jurisdiction from them. They are without authority. They are the new protestants.


409 posted on 01/11/2017 6:30:11 AM PST by Repent and Believe (The Son of Man, when He cometh, shall He find, think you, faith on earth? Jesus Christ (Luke 18:8))
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To: metmom
And yet, your college of cardinals voted in this pope, just like all the rest. Again the questions remain which I don't recall seeing answers to. Does the Holy Spirit guide the college of cardinals in selecting the pope? And How is allowing popes like Francis an example of the Holy Spirit protecting the church from error in faith or morals as you guys always claim?

Kinda blows that "unbroken line of succession from Peter" meme out of the water, too. Looks like a 60+ year gap according to a few here.

463 posted on 01/11/2017 6:24:32 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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