R&B:
The Second Vatican Council was essentially a protest and rebellion against the church. In it for example six heretic protestants were invited by Rome as advisers. Traditional (true) Catholics on the other hand are not joining the protest.
metmom:
And yet, your college of cardinals voted in this pope, just like all the rest.
Again the questions remain which I don’t recall seeing answers to.
Does the Holy Spirit guide the college of cardinals in selecting the pope?
And
How is allowing popes like Francis an example of the Holy Spirit protecting the church from error in faith or morals as you guys always claim?
R&B:
The college of cardinals like Judas, fell into apostasy. This is nothing new, it is just more intense, which Jesus predicted in the last days.
As I’ve stated before, “Francis” is not a true pope. That is how “us guys” can always claim the Holy Spirit protects the church from error.
The papacy continues, and the Holy Spirit enlivens the church even though Jesus ascended into heaven. How does the papacy continue? The acts of all true popes remain in our tradition, and are to be followed by the faithful. If we are faithful to the last known true pope we are off to a good start. The papacy lives on. There is a gap in the physical papacy every time a pontiff dies, by the way.
Again the recent college of cardinals and their electees are not Catholic or are apostates and heretics. Their manifest heresy de facto removes jurisdiction from them. They are without authority. They are the new protestants.
Well, there goes that 'unbroken line of succession' thingy, flying right out the window.
It (the thingy) didn't even have to crash through any glass ceilings, went right (left?) sideways, instead!
If memory serves...according to John Calvin, the last 'good' pope was Gregory the Great.
I do believe that man had a point. To a point, as for this point, that is (a bit more on that, in just moment...please stand by...)
Luke 18: 19
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
..."call no man 'Father'" He also said.
They should have stuck with that --- and wouldn't be having this problem! Ever think of that?
How dehydrated rock-hard dense does someone have to be in order to not SEE it?!?
Image of transit of Mercury, below;