So funny..... Jesus wasn’t Catholic, hahahah...
So funny..... Jesus wasn’t Catholic, hahahah...
It sure would concidering the Roman Catholic Church is not even Christian.
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
“Shared Communion With Protestants Would be Blasphemy and Sacrilege”
And Protestants sharing Communion with Catholics would be blasphemy and sacrilege.
Protestants have different beliefs on the Eucharist than Catholics and Orthodox Christians. Inter-communion would not be appropriate without resolution of these differences.
Catechism of the Catholic Church:
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p2s2c1a3.htm
“1400 Ecclesial communities derived from the Reformation and separated from the Catholic Church, “have not preserved the proper reality of the Eucharistic mystery in its fullness, especially because of the absence of the sacrament of Holy Orders.”239 It is for this reason that, for the Catholic Church, Eucharistic intercommunion with these communities is not possible. However these ecclesial communities, “when they commemorate the Lord’s death and resurrection in the Holy Supper . . . profess that it signifies life in communion with Christ and await his coming in glory.”240”
Vatican II DECREE ON ECUMENISM: UNITATIS REDINTEGRATIO
http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decree_19641121_unitatis-redintegratio_en.html
“Though the ecclesial Communities which are separated from us lack the fullness of unity with us flowing from Baptism, and though we believe they have not retained the proper reality of the eucharistic mystery in its fullness, especially because of the absence of the sacrament of Orders, nevertheless when they commemorate His death and resurrection in the Lord’s Supper, they profess that it signifies life in communion with Christ and look forward to His coming in glory. Therefore the teaching concerning the Lord’s Supper, the other sacraments, worship, the ministry of the Church, must be the subject of the dialogue.”
Is there really some kind of demand out there for non-Catholics to receive Roman Catholic communion—or Catholics to receive the Protestant sacrament?
I just don’t see it, it sounds like they are just stirring the pot.
If you don't believe in the former, why bother even showing up? I watch Protestants eat their symbolic wafers once a year from my pipe ensconced skybox and think "Well there's some empty carbs for you."
From an Orthodox perspective this would be a deeply troubling development. We have always taken a fairly strict view on the prohibition against communio in sacris with the heterodox. Following the example of the Fathers and the canons of the Church the sharing of the cup is more than just a feel good moment. It is even more than the reception of His Body and Blood. It is also a declaration that there are no serious differences in faith between the two churches. Or to boil it down into a somewhat simplistic way of thinking, “you are who you are in communion with.”
If Rome were to do this it would force me and I suspect many other Orthodox, possibly even on an official level, to seriously reconsider some long held opinions on Roman Catholic Church.
The anti-Catholic snarky replies aren’t necessary.
The article does not insult you. We have starkly different beliefs on the meaning of the Last Supper and the last half of John 6. Those different beliefs translate into our worship, which if you don’t share, it’s pointless for you to participate in.
far be it from me to go against the magisterium. Okay, what’s a magisterium?
In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.”
...but only if you’re part of the Catholic Church... which doesn’t really exist yet. In fact, since we’re all Jews, we haven’t even made up our minds about Gentiles yet, but once we have, and they’re “Catholic”, then only if they’re “Catholic”.
I sure am glad I have a personal relationship with my Savior, and don’t have to worry about all this man-created drama.
I am not Catholic, but I take this very seriously. I have been to many Catholic services, and I never take communion there. It is not appropriate to accept communion (or any other sacrament) unless you believe in and accept the underlying meaning and conditions.
“leading Christians to commit blasphemy and sacrilege”
There is a long history of blasphemy and sacrilege within the Catholic Church, which is why Protestants exist.
That said, Catholics can be in or out of Communion with whomever they wish. It seems to me to gloss over differences in religions by sharing Communion is counterproductive to your chosen religion.
The reformed Church doesn’t care if we can’t celebrate the Lord’s Supper with any other church, IMO
According to page 339 of William Bennett’s “Trial by Fire: the story of Christianity’s first thousand years” transubstantiation became codified doctrine of the Catholic Church by the Fourth Lateran Council in 1215.
Dr. Bennett gives a short history of the debate within Catholicism over whether the wine and bread were real or symbolic. The debate began around 831 A.D. with a treatise by the Frankish abbot Pachasius Radbertus in which he presented the case for bread and wine of communion were literally Jesus’ blood and body.
I recommend to all Catholics and Protestants, Dr. Bennett’s book “Trial by Fire” as good reading of the history of the early Christian Church between the time of Jesus and 1054, where Bennett concludes it.
If there ever has been a time in history that Christians should realize and act on the simple truth that we have something very important in common (that would be love for Christ), this is the time.
Discussion of our differing beliefs is healthy and good among Christians, but treating each other with anything less than love goes against Christ’s demand that we love one another.
There are those today who are making great progress toward destroying Christianity, one Christian at a time.
As a Catholic, I will defend Protestant Christians, but I believe that there are Protestants who will not defend me.
So liberal Protestants and Catholics want shared communion, and then conservative Protestants are upset when conservative Catholics say that shouldn’t happen?
OK then.
Freegards
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Communion itself is blasphemy.
It has no basis in scripture.
Yeshua’s last supper was a meal of barley loaf and wine, in which he simply asked that whenever we have the barley loaf and wine, we do it in remembrance of him.
Men have twisted that simple request into nicolaitan insanity.
Do what Yeshua said; disregard what men invent.
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Apparently this guy (as well as the author) knows nothing about the 1983 Code of Canon Law where JPII codified Vatican II and allowed non-Catholics to receive communion WITHOUT conversion. The 1917 Code of Canon Law and prior FORBID such communion without conversion.
This door was already opened. Wake up.