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Theologian: Shared Communion With Protestants Would be Blasphemy and Sacrilege
National Catholic Register ^ | January 2, 2017 | Edward Pentin

Posted on 01/02/2017 4:25:11 AM PST by BlessedBeGod

...If the Church were to change its rules on shared Eucharistic Communion it would “go against Revelation and the Magisterium”, leading Christians to “commit blasphemy and sacrilege,” an Italian theologian has warned.

Drawing on the Church’s teaching based on Sacred Scripture and Tradition, Msgr. Nicola Bux, a former consulter to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, stressed that non-Catholic Christians must have undertaken baptism and confirmation in the Catholic Church, and repented of grave sin through sacramental confession, in order to be able to receive Jesus in the Eucharist.

Msgr. Bux was responding to the Register about concerns that elements of the current pontificate might be sympathetic of a form of “open Communion” proposed by the German Protestant theologian, Jürgen Moltmann.

The concerns have arisen primarily due to the Holy Father’s own comments on Holy Communion and Lutherans, his apparent support for some remarried divorcees to receive Holy Communion, and how others have used his frequently repeated maxim about the Eucharist: that it is “not a prize for the perfect, but a powerful medicine and nourishment for the weak.”

The debate specifically over intercommunion with Christian denominations follows recent remarks by Cardinal Walter Kasper who, in a Dec. 10 interview with Avvenire, said he hopes Pope Francis’ next declaration will open the way for intercommunion with other denominations “in special cases.”

The German theologian said shared Eucharistic communion is just a matter of time, and that the Pope’s recent participation in the Reformation commemoration in Lund has given “a new thrust” to the “ecumenical process.”

Pope Francis has often expressed his admiration for Cardinal Kasper’s theology whose thinking has significantly influenced…the priorities of this pontificate, particularly on the Eucharist.

For Moltmann, Holy Communion is “the Lord's supper, not something organized by a church or a denomination”...

(Excerpt) Read more at ncregister.com ...


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To: ealgeone

I see I have a stalker. I’m flattered.


821 posted on 01/16/2017 5:59:55 PM PST by ebb tide (Bergoglio wants a moral revolution; so does Lucifer.)
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To: ebb tide
I see I have a stalker. I’m flattered.

I see you're paranoid.

822 posted on 01/16/2017 6:04:55 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide; ealgeone

There is no formality to confession in the New Testament. The obligation to perform it is met any time a believer approaches another believer to confess their error. The notion of transferring that responsibility from the offending parties to a priestly hierarchy is NOT taught in the New Testament.

The problem you have is that if Christians (of any denomination) limited their practices to only what was clearly exampled in the New Testament for New Testament believers, it would not produce the Roman denomination as it exists today. Of course, the RCC justifies this as a function of progressive development of doctrine. The downside to that theory is it has no logical stopping point, if Scripture cannot be used as the final court of appeal. The ‘development’ of doctrine can go to places just as fanciful as anything ever concocted outside the RCC. The defense to that is the assertion that, ‘no it can’t because ...’ and at that point the RCC defers back to a presumption of RCC authority. This is a fatally circular argument. Really, the only thing that defends one against the self-referential authority argument is an external arbiter, such as Scripture.

As for what the NT reveals, it is frightful to think some still believe Christians outside the RCC can only produce man-centered theologies. I could excuse that during the medieval period, when we didn’t have widespread print or electronic media. Nowadays there is simply no excuse. Protestant/Evangelical theology is magnificently centered in God and Christ. Even in the teaching on the Lord’s Supper the emphasis is NOT subjective experience but the eternal glory of God’s love revealed in the love of Christ dying for our sins. This is not a thing to which any knowledgeable RC could object.

Peace,

SR


823 posted on 01/16/2017 6:21:44 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: ebb tide

Such a revealing post about you!


824 posted on 01/16/2017 6:23:33 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: ebb tide

When I was growing up in a small MS town, we went to different churches. My parents knew just about everyone and we had tons of relatives. They would invite us to their churches. As long as they taught directly from the Bible, we were fine. I know they taught from the Bible because from the time I learned to read, I carried my own Bible. Nothing wrong with going to different churches. We loved it because we had friends/relatives in each. We even went to services in a brush arbor.


825 posted on 01/16/2017 6:27:54 PM PST by MamaB (Heb : 13:2)
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To: daniel1212

Amen!


826 posted on 01/16/2017 6:28:05 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: Springfield Reformer
There is no formality to confession in the New Testament. The obligation to perform it is met any time a believer approaches another believer to confess their error. The notion of transferring that responsibility from the offending parties to a priestly hierarchy is NOT taught in the New Testament.

Wrong. Jesus only conferred that authority upon his apostles. No one else.

But I'm curious, what "believers" do you confess your sins? Your neighbor? The mailman?

827 posted on 01/16/2017 6:28:57 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: MamaB

In all those years, did you ever go to a Catholic Church?


828 posted on 01/16/2017 6:30:50 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

We confess TO GOD ... but you should have known that since you reject that Truth so haughtily.


829 posted on 01/16/2017 6:32:55 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

I’m glad you checked it out.


830 posted on 01/16/2017 6:34:32 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide
I just have to lol at that. I was in the dr’s office a few years ago. For some reason, my bp goes off the chart when I have to wait for hours. The nurse checked mine and it was about 200/160. The dr placed me in a quiet room to see if it would go down. She said if it didn't, she would send me to the hospital. While I was in there, I just said, “Jesus, it is up to you to bring this down. Thank you.” Nothing else. When she came back in, it was back to normal. Prayers work. Jesus is the answer. People do not need to go to mass or pray to anyone but Jesus.
831 posted on 01/16/2017 6:36:00 PM PST by MamaB (Heb : 13:2)
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To: ebb tide

Nope. A born again believer.


832 posted on 01/16/2017 6:42:06 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: MHGinTN
Well that's not what Jesus Christ instructed. Didn't He say, "Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.

Or has that part been excised out your bible?

833 posted on 01/16/2017 6:42:19 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Acts 17:24-25 The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in temples made by man, nor is he served by human hands, as though he needed anything, since he himself gives to all mankind life and breath and everything.
834 posted on 01/16/2017 6:43:33 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ealgeone

“Context is lost on the Catholic.”

No it isn’t.


835 posted on 01/16/2017 6:45:29 PM PST by Repent and Believe (The Son of Man, when He cometh, shall He find, think you, faith on earth? Jesus Christ (Luke 18:8))
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To: PeterPrinciple

Wonderful verses about the new covenant being written on the heart.

Thank you.


836 posted on 01/16/2017 6:45:42 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
A born again believer.

Did you get baptized again? When you were "reborn"?

837 posted on 01/16/2017 6:48:01 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide; ealgeone
Hate to burst your bubble, but there's no more a direct access to God than the Holy Mass.

Sure there is.

Having Him dwell in your heart through faith which beats a cold. formal liturgy any day.

Far more intimate that simple eating God.

838 posted on 01/16/2017 6:49:27 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ebb tide; MHGinTN

Well, my pastors where suits, not dresses.


839 posted on 01/16/2017 6:50:32 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
Far more intimate that simple eating God.

It was good enough for the apostles at the Last Supper. But I guess they're beneath you.

840 posted on 01/16/2017 6:52:43 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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