Posted on 01/02/2017 4:25:11 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
...If the Church were to change its rules on shared Eucharistic Communion it would “go against Revelation and the Magisterium”, leading Christians to “commit blasphemy and sacrilege,” an Italian theologian has warned.
Drawing on the Church’s teaching based on Sacred Scripture and Tradition, Msgr. Nicola Bux, a former consulter to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, stressed that non-Catholic Christians must have undertaken baptism and confirmation in the Catholic Church, and repented of grave sin through sacramental confession, in order to be able to receive Jesus in the Eucharist.
Msgr. Bux was responding to the Register about concerns that elements of the current pontificate might be sympathetic of a form of “open Communion” proposed by the German Protestant theologian, Jürgen Moltmann.
The concerns have arisen primarily due to the Holy Father’s own comments on Holy Communion and Lutherans, his apparent support for some remarried divorcees to receive Holy Communion, and how others have used his frequently repeated maxim about the Eucharist: that it is “not a prize for the perfect, but a powerful medicine and nourishment for the weak.”
The debate specifically over intercommunion with Christian denominations follows recent remarks by Cardinal Walter Kasper who, in a Dec. 10 interview with Avvenire, said he hopes Pope Francis’ next declaration will open the way for intercommunion with other denominations “in special cases.”
The German theologian said shared Eucharistic communion is just a matter of time, and that the Pope’s recent participation in the Reformation commemoration in Lund has given “a new thrust” to the “ecumenical process.”
Pope Francis has often expressed his admiration for Cardinal Kasper’s theology whose thinking has significantly influenced…the priorities of this pontificate, particularly on the Eucharist.
For Moltmann, Holy Communion is “the Lord's supper, not something organized by a church or a denomination”...
(Excerpt) Read more at ncregister.com ...
Two questions and an a thru j list of stuff.
Where to begin.
I didn't know I was going to stir up so many concepts just by not agreeing that...
'true' Christians will NOT be at the GWT.
And I agree.
Why are we fussing?
Now we're getting somewhere, although a simple "yes" on question (2) would have done it.
Your statement above seems to mean that true Christians will be at the GWT, right?
But do you agree with MHG and me that they will not be judged at the GWT?
This is not about fussing. This is, I took it, about denominating me as a “Prot.”
The first question is quite straight-forward, is it not? On the second question, begin at the "at least part" clause. Pick one of the statements of doctrinal position that would elicit a "yes" response from you, and tell me which one.
Or say "no" if you agree with no part of that list.
Without a dispensational perspective it is difficult to reconcile all of Paul’s teachings. One in particular, telling his readers that those in Christ have passed from condemnation into life is especially tricky and leads to such notions that Christians will be judged at the GWT at the end of the millennium. Nobody will be Heaven except they be cleansed by the blood of Jesus. There will be a number so large no man (in Paul’s epoch) could number them, and that BEFORE the GWT of Judgment. Those in Heaven will be there because of the Righteousness of Christ imputed to them, so there is therefore now no condemnation thus no being ‘judged’ at the GWT ... additionally, in technical terms, those Raptured or brought to Heaven during the Tribulation due to their calling upon The Savior are no longer among ‘all men great and small’ for they are a new creation. For the New Creatures there is no Second death for their spirit Bodies are alive forever more.
Uh, hey Beavis.
What, Butt-head?
He said Prot
Eheheheh
No.
I did not single you out...
If we don’t watch it; we Prots will get into a furball fight...
I don't wanna play this game.
I appear to be in for enough questioning about the ORIGINAL thing I commented on:
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I've no idea what a 'dispensational perspective' is.
It's never been stressed in the 36 years I've attended a Wesleyan congregation.
Have a good rest of the weekend, and I’ll see ya in the clouds ... (1Thess 4:13-18 as it flows from 1Thess 1:9&10)we’re outta here before the wrath begins in the Tribulation, dude.
HEY!!!
No fair!!!!
You weren't SUPPOSED to notice.
Tuesday
Ain’t it been quiet tpough...
I’m actually getting stuff done!
Elvis has left the building...
It’s inevitable.
It happens every time.
It’s about time!
I’ve wondered just WHY this thread continued as long as it did!
Must be the news cycle or sumpthin’...
OK, if you say so. 😀
But do you agree with MHG and me that they will not be judged at the GWT?
I might as well throw in my two cents. My opinion, and it's ONLY my opinion, because I don't think it matters a bunch. I think we born again Christians WILL be at the GWT, not to be judged, as our sins have already been forgiven.
I think we will all be there, either as observers, or witnesses for the prosecution. I think we will rise in Judgement, along with the men of Nineveh, and the Queen of the South, and condemn the lost sinners. I don't believe we have the power to "condemn" anyone. I think it is simply that we will agree with God's judgment, as He condemns them.
My opinion only, not dogmatic about it. 😀
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