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01/03/1962: Pope John XXIII excommunicated Fidel Castro
The American Catholic ^ | January 3, 2014

Posted on 11/27/2016 1:44:29 AM PST by detective

On this day in 1962, Blessed John XXIII excommunicated Cuba’s “maximum leader,” supposedly on the basis of a 1949 decree by Pope Pius XII forbidding Catholics from supporting communist governments.

(Excerpt) Read more at the-american-catholic.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: castro; excommunicated; popejohn

1 posted on 11/27/2016 1:44:29 AM PST by detective
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To: detective

Somebody better tell Bergoglio. He’s in the vestry prepping for a Requiem Mass at this very moment...


2 posted on 11/27/2016 1:46:40 AM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: FredZarguna

BINGO!!!!


3 posted on 11/27/2016 1:56:58 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: FredZarguna
He’s in the vestry prepping for a Requiem Mass at this very moment.

This is a true statement or are you making up lies?

4 posted on 11/27/2016 2:05:02 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Potheads vote Dem.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

In view of his self-proclaimed sorrow at Castro’so demise, it isn’t all that much of a stretch.


5 posted on 11/27/2016 2:12:46 AM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: FredZarguna

So you were making up lies.


6 posted on 11/27/2016 2:19:20 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Potheads vote Dem.)
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To: detective

Published Friday, January 3, A.D. 2014 | By The Motley Monk

*On this day in 1962, Blessed John XXIII excommunicated Cuba’s “maximum leader,” supposedly on the basis of a 1949 decree by Pope Pius XII forbidding Catholics from supporting communist governments.

A couple of years back, Andrea Torinella of Vatican Insider wrote about the genesis of the excommunication, finding it to be somewhat of a “mystery” that may not be related to the 1949 decree.

Archbishop Dino Staffa, who at the time was a member of the Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura and wrote the decree, alleged the reasons were not related to supporting Castro’s support of communism, but to having committed or collaborated in acts of violence against the Catholic hierarchy.

Indeed, months prior to the excommunication, Bishop Eduardo Roza Masvidal and 135 priests had been expelled from Cuba. In his declaration, Archbishop Staffa made reference to this and to various other problems existing at the time with regard to the Catholic Church in Cuba.

Torinella wonders whether the declaration, which coincided with a broader message John XXIII send to Castro, was an attempt to balance the effect of the Pope’s words could have–which some considered too expansive–while also reminding other Catholic political leaders what canon law had in store for those who would conspire against or bring harm to the Catholic hierarchy.

As a result, Castro never received an ad personam excommunication and neither did Blessed John XXIII make any decisions in this regard.*


7 posted on 11/27/2016 2:35:11 AM PST by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: detective

It is, of course, not up to me to judge Castro. I can, though, note, that even though Castro turned decidedly more religious in his advanced age, he remained staunchly communist.


8 posted on 11/27/2016 4:58:31 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (always)
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To: detective

And the current pope admired him, went to see him, paved the way for bammy to make a one-sided deal with him, and now is crying over his death.


9 posted on 11/27/2016 6:21:51 AM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: detective
On this day in 1962, Blessed John XXIII excommunicated Cuba’s “maximum leader,” supposedly on the basis of a 1949 decree by Pope Pius XII forbidding Catholics from supporting communist governments.

In 1950, after being severely tortured, Hungary's Cardinal Mindszenty was railroaded to jail by the country's Communist regime. Pope Pius XII excommunicated every Hungarian Communist who took part in this travesty.

10 posted on 11/27/2016 6:31:28 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: detective

Did Frankie the idiot pope reinstate him?


11 posted on 11/27/2016 7:28:53 AM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

I think the word you are looking for is “satire.” Calm down.


12 posted on 11/27/2016 11:25:19 AM PST by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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To: NRx
I think the word you are looking for is “satire.”

No, "lies" is the correct word.

13 posted on 11/27/2016 8:25:04 PM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Potheads vote Dem.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Sorry, but you are wrong. And if you don’t understand the difference between satire and deliberate lies you are probably not going to find FR very congenial as there is quite a bit of it here.


14 posted on 11/28/2016 7:13:19 AM PST by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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To: NRx
if you don’t understand the difference between satire and deliberate lies

It wasn't satire.

15 posted on 11/28/2016 7:25:58 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Potheads vote Dem.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
He’s in the vestry prepping for a Requiem Mass at this very moment... Most certainly was satire. That you don't grasp that is disturbing.
16 posted on 11/28/2016 7:45:13 AM PST by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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To: NRx
that is disturbing.

What's disturbing is the way you defend that guy's lies.

17 posted on 11/29/2016 2:07:46 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Potheads vote Dem.)
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