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To: Natufian
Extend your argument to theists and what you’re saying is that rationally and logically there can’t be any believers.

You are correct.

However, the argument regarding the "belief" in NO GOD, requires that atheists be 100% certain that there is no God, whereas, for the believers in God, they don't make the argument that they know for certain that there is a God; for the "theists", it's about "faith", and faith is never 100% a certainty. Atheists don't believe in a God, and they don't want a God, and they abhor the idea of a God.

Then, there is the certainty that, life didn't just become super-complicated and we arrived at being "super-intelligent" beings, with very creative physical and mental powers, by sheer accident. How do accidental events take a whole lot of minerals and energy, and then, VOILA!!!, Life! How did that first organism decide that, there must be more that "I" can accomplish and set about becoming something "greater and better"; then, that same kind of "decision" occurred quadrillions upon quadrillions of times, to finally arrive at what we humans have become? Along the way, we humans became aware of something greater than us, and that we call a "God" or Creator? Accidents don't just happen to create the super-complex animal and plant life, within the super-complicated/super-complex universe. Within the tiniest of particles, there is an "intelligent design", which all went towards creating everything else; so, where did that intelligent design come from?
55 posted on 11/27/2016 6:17:19 AM PST by adorno (w)
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To: adorno

“for the believers in God, they don’t make the argument that they know for certain that there is a God; for the “theists”, it’s about “faith”, and faith is never 100% a certainty.”

So you’d categorise most believers as being less than 100% sure that God exists? That wouldn’t be my experience and sounds like you’re saying most believers are agnostic to some degree or other.


56 posted on 11/27/2016 6:53:11 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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