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Francis Praises Major Humanae Vitae Dissenter in Rebuke of ‘White or Black’ Morality
LifeSiteNews ^ | 11/24/16 | Pete Baklinski

Posted on 11/24/2016 6:28:35 PM PST by marshmallow

ROME, November 24, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) – Pope Francis has praised the 1960s German moral theologian Bernard Häring, one of the most prominent dissenters from Pope Paul VI’s 1968 encyclical Humanae Vitae, for his new morality which the pope said helped “moral theology to flourish.”

"I think Bernard Häring was the first to start looking for a new way to help moral theology to flourish again," he said in comments, published today by La Civiltà Cattolica, that were given during a dialogue with the Jesuit order which was gathered for its 36th general Congregation on October 24, 2016 in Rome.

Pope Francis gave his comments while answering a question about a morality he has often spoken about based on “discernment.”

“Discernment is the key element: the capacity for discernment. I note the absence of discernment in the formation of priests. We run the risk of getting used to 'white or black,' to that which is legal. We are rather closed, in general, to discernment. One thing is clear: today, in a certain number of seminaries, a rigidity that is far from a discernment of situations has been introduced. And that is dangerous, because it can lead us to a conception of morality that has a casuistic sense,” he said.

Francis criticized what he called a “decadent scholasticism” that his generation was educated in, that provoked what he called a “casuistic attitude” towards morality.

“The whole moral sphere was restricted to ‘you can,’ ‘you cannot,’ ‘up to here yes but not there,’” he said.

“It was a morality very foreign to ‘discernment,’" he said, adding that Bernard Häring was the “first to start looking for a new way to help moral theology to flourish again.”

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1 posted on 11/24/2016 6:28:35 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

yahoo!! Lukewarm here we come!!


2 posted on 11/24/2016 6:31:53 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: marshmallow

Lord have Mercy!

Kýrie, eléison

Christe, eléison


3 posted on 11/24/2016 6:33:27 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: marshmallow

Is the Pope...

...never mind.


4 posted on 11/24/2016 6:39:48 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (President Trump is coming, and the rule of law is coming with him.)
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To: SubMareener

Retreating into irrelevance...


5 posted on 11/24/2016 7:09:16 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: marshmallow

Ground control to Bergoglio. The Word of God and the teachings of Christ are eternal. Try getting a copy of Catholicism 100 for Beginners. The average RCIA teacher knows more about Catholicism than you do.


6 posted on 11/24/2016 7:16:54 PM PST by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: marshmallow

When I went to St. Joseph’s College of Indiana 1965-69, discernment examining issues based upon morality and the Church’s teachings. The idea of “situational morality” was creeping in, but it was NOT taught and remained a topic of discussion among students, usually during those late nights on weekends. “Situational Morality” to me was a way to use some arguments to justify immoral or illegal acts. Ah how the times have changed.


7 posted on 11/24/2016 7:17:14 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: marshmallow

Bergoglio is a heretic. Everybody knows it. Everybody also knows he’s vicious and dishonest. His papacy is over, ended by the Four Cardinals.


8 posted on 11/24/2016 7:17:51 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

No. He is not.


9 posted on 11/24/2016 7:19:25 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: Arthur McGowan

But, bears still take bodacious Obamas in the woods.


10 posted on 11/24/2016 7:35:50 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: marshmallow

Kind of like the ongoing debate about modesty?


11 posted on 11/24/2016 8:06:03 PM PST by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: marshmallow

Hey, who is he to judge?


12 posted on 11/24/2016 10:48:12 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: SubMareener

Not even lukewarm but appeals to untrained conscience will be legitimized, which is even worse. Look for “pastoral responses” to behavior the Church has always taught as sinful.


13 posted on 11/24/2016 11:57:48 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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ROME, November 24, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) – Pope Francis has praised the 1960s German moral theologian Bernard Häring, one of the most prominent dissenters from Pope Paul VI’s 1968 encyclical Humanae Vitae, for his new morality which the pope said helped “moral theology to flourish.”  

"I think Bernard Häring was the first to start looking for a new way to help moral theology to flourish again," he said in comments, published today by La Civiltà Cattolica, that were given during a dialogue with the Jesuit order which was gathered for its 36th general Congregation on October 24, 2016 in Rome. 

Pope Francis gave his comments while answering a question about a morality he has often spoken about based on “discernment.”

“Discernment is the key element: the capacity for discernment. I note the absence of discernment in the formation of priests. We run the risk of getting used to 'white or black,' to that which is legal. We are rather closed, in general, to discernment. One thing is clear: today, in a certain number of seminaries, a rigidity that is far from a discernment of situations has been introduced. And that is dangerous, because it can lead us to a conception of morality that has a casuistic sense,” he said. 

Francis criticized what he called a “decadent scholasticism” that his generation was educated in, that provoked what he called a “casuistic attitude” towards morality. 

“The whole moral sphere was restricted to ‘you can,’ ‘you cannot,’ ‘up to here yes but not there,’” he said. 

“It was a morality very foreign to ‘discernment,’" he said, adding that Bernard Häring was the “first to start looking for a new way to help moral theology to flourish again.”

Fr. Bernard Häring (1912-98) was a key figure during the Second Vatican Council, where he applied the principle of the evolution of dogma (as found in the nouvelle théologie) to morality. According to Professor Roberto de Mattei, this “new morality” championed by Häring ultimately “den[ied] the existence of an absolute and immutable natural law.”

Häring was first appointed an “expert” at Vatican II and then later became the secretary of the Commission on the modern world, where, according to de Mattei, he became one of the primary architects of the document Gaudium et Spes (Joy and Hope), part of which deals with marriage. 

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According to de Mattei, a vicious battle was waged during the crafting of this document between the progressive and traditional minorities over procreation in marriage. 

“This battle went beyond the pill to include the ends of marriage. At issue was the very basis of natural law itself,” he said in a talk given at the Rome Life Forum in 2015. 

The progressive element, backed by Häring, eventually prevailed upon Pope Paul VI to leave aside the question of contraception in the document, according to de Mattei.

“The most surprising aspect of Gaudium et Spes, however, is the lack of any presentation of the traditional order of the ends of marriage, the primary and the secondary….The institution of marriage, therefore, is defined without any reference to children and only as an intimate community of conjugal life. Moreover, in the succeeding paragraphs, conjugal love is discussed first (paragraph 49) and procreation second (paragraph 50),” said de Mattei.

After Paul VI released Humanae Vitae in 1968 where he taught unequivocally that “each and every marriage act must remain open to the transmission of human life” and called the use of contraception “intrinsically wrong,” Häring spent his energy in criticizing not only Paul VI, but also Pope John Paul II, for their stances on birth control and other sexual issues. 

Häring was eventually investigated by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) in the 1970s for his 1972 book Medical Ethics, where he presents a concept of health that would allow a couple to use contraception if they deemed it the best means to help them fulfill their total vocation, a principle condemned in Humanae Vitae

Häring became the mentor of Charles Curran, a dissident Catholic priest who aggressively condemned the Church’s teachings on matters such as abortion, contraception, and homosexuality. Curran, who was also investigated by the CDF in the late 1970s and early 1980s, was officially prohibited by Pope John Paul II in 1986 from teaching at any Catholic school and was stripped of the title ‘Catholic theologian.’

Francis called it an “important task” of the Society of Jesus that they “form seminarians and priests in the morality of ‘discernment.’”

It was using the method of “discernment” in response to the Zika virus scare earlier this year that Pope Francis appeared to condone the use of contraception for married couples living in affected areas as the “lesser of two evils.” Vatican spokesman Fr. Federico Lombardi confirmed the pope’s words the following day, stating: “The contraceptive or condom, in particular cases of emergency or gravity, could be the object of ‘discernment’ in a serious case of conscience. This is what the Pope said.” Critics said the pope’s move contradicted previous Catholic teaching (see herehere, and here). 

Pope Francis also spoke about the morality of “discernment” in his April exhortation Amoris Laetitia more than thirty times, using the term as a key to opening the door to Holy Communion for Catholics living in adulterous situations. Immediately following the “smoking footnote” 351, in which critics say the pope allowed the divorced and remarried to receive Holy Communion, the pope writes that “discernment must help to find possible ways of responding to God and growing in the midst of limits.”

Four cardinals have recently asked the pope to clarify key passages in the exhortation, asking him a set of five yes-or-no questions regarding the indissolubility of marriage, the existence of absolute moral norms, and the role of conscience in making decisions. They went public with their “dubia” last week after the pope failed to reply.

RELATED: Who are these four cardinals who wrote the ‘dubia’ to the Pope?

During his dialogue with the Jesuits, Pope Francis noted the progress that has been made in moral theology since the days of “you can, you cannot.”

“Obviously, in our day moral theology has made much progress in its reflections and in its maturity,” he said. 

14 posted on 11/25/2016 1:58:55 PM PST by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: marshmallow

The Jesuit in him is rearing its head.


15 posted on 11/25/2016 2:13:45 PM PST by Melian (America, bless God. God, bless America.)
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To: NYer

H’mmm, sounds like it is time for a chorus or two of “give me that old time Jesuit faithfulness in defending the Catholic faith.”

“old time” means around a hundred years, since it has gone into a progressive mode in the last 75 years.


16 posted on 11/25/2016 3:13:09 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Melian

Jesuit, and South-American Marxist.


17 posted on 11/25/2016 4:09:35 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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