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Why Was Christ Crucified Between Two Thieves?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 11-20-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 11/21/2016 7:34:49 AM PST by Salvation

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The question for you is this: Which thief are you?

Which thief are you? Are you the one who accepts the cross and is willing to die outside the gate with Christ, or are you the one who insists that the cross must go?

1 posted on 11/21/2016 7:34:49 AM PST by Salvation
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To: Salvation

I’d probably ask Christ to free me, like the one thief did, but when that fell through I’d hopefully ask to take me with Him.


2 posted on 11/21/2016 7:38:07 AM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: Salvation

“Suffering is not meaningless. It brings wisdom, humility, perspective, strength, and trust.”

Yes! I would just add: this is true when suffering is offered to and shared with God.


3 posted on 11/21/2016 7:42:29 AM PST by agere_contra (I will be glad and rejoice in your love, for You saw my affliction and knew the anguish of my soul.)
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Monsignor Pope Ping!


4 posted on 11/21/2016 7:44:29 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Senator Goldwater

“Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom.”

“Amen I say to you, this very day thou shalt be with Me in paradise.”


5 posted on 11/21/2016 7:44:53 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Salvation

Why? Because.
God almost never answers why questions.


6 posted on 11/21/2016 7:55:24 AM PST by lurk (TEat)
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To: Salvation
Wrong question, wrong scenario.

We needed the lesson that there is nothing we can do to be saved except to receive Him by faith;

"Lord, remember me"

and have His personal answer (by the indwelling of the Holy Ghost)

"This day thou shalt be with Me"


Yes, it IS that simple.

God did not pat us on the head and say, "Good luck kid ... hope y'MAKE it"

7 posted on 11/21/2016 7:57:17 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Salvation

They mention Isaiah 53:9, but leave out 53:12, which is referenced in Mark 15:28 and Luke 22:37, especially the phrase “and he was numbered with the transgressors”.


8 posted on 11/21/2016 8:06:42 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: knarf

Also, the thief did not look down at Mary and ask, “Will you petition your Son to let me into paradise with him?”


9 posted on 11/21/2016 8:29:19 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: Salvation

For the same reason as to why he was put in a manger between two animals. Isaiah 1:3.

And that, boys and girls, is why the ox and donkey are included in Nativity Sets (which we’ll see all over the place in a couple of weeks). There’s also a verse about this (although it only says “beasts” or “animals”) in the Septuagint version of Habakkuk.

http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2012/01/ancient-origins-of-nativity-scene-part.html#.WDMinfkrLcc

http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2012/01/ancient-origins-of-nativity-scene-part_12.html#.WDMjQ_krLcc


10 posted on 11/21/2016 8:38:01 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: kosciusko51

he could have petitioned Mary...

your point is?


11 posted on 11/21/2016 8:49:25 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: teeman8r

If he did petition Mary, and it was important to our salvation, God would have ensured it was part of the text.

My point is we can go directly to Christ for our salvation, as He is our Intercessor to God the Father. No other is required.


12 posted on 11/21/2016 8:53:22 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

nor did he say to the thief on the right, hey, you need to say a sinner’s prayer first with specific words and then accept me as your personal lord and savior, and only promise to have faith alone and scripture alone.....

(see, we can all play that game)


13 posted on 11/21/2016 8:59:05 AM PST by raygunfan
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What the thief said is far closer to the sinner’s prayer than “Hail Mary, Mother of God...”


14 posted on 11/21/2016 9:01:22 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

put it in as part of the text??? what text exactly, since this is 33 a.d, most of the known world is illiterate and there are no bibles, even edited KJV’s.....


15 posted on 11/21/2016 9:02:02 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: raygunfan

Plus, I don’t subscribe to a sinner’s prayer formulation.


16 posted on 11/21/2016 9:02:38 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

really? what sarah said to mary when mary visted? actual scriptural text as well? that is closer? how so?

and im sorry, if that is closer, why isnt that the required usual ‘sinners prayer’ that is always advised (and appears nowhere in the bible)?


17 posted on 11/21/2016 9:03:14 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: raygunfan

The writers of the Gospels would have recorded it in their texts, especially John’s Gospel. THAT is the text I am referring to.


18 posted on 11/21/2016 9:04:15 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

aaaaah, but the evangelical world has been for years and years...being that there is no such prayer ever uttered in sacred scripture, frankly, im surprised....but again, traditions of men....what are ya going to do?


19 posted on 11/21/2016 9:04:44 AM PST by raygunfan
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It's not a game ... the sinner's prayer is there from his heart ... Lord, remember me ....

Why would a punk that got the book refer to Jesus as "Lord" ?

Because he believed Jesus IS LORD.

By grace are ye saved through FAITH, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God

20 posted on 11/21/2016 9:05:05 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof, but they're true.)
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