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Why Was Christ Crucified Between Two Thieves?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 11-20-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 11/21/2016 7:34:49 AM PST by Salvation

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To: kosciusko51

and johns gospel wasnt written for years yet, how was anyone supposed to know and again, no one could read....what was going on in those years between the time of His crucificixion and waiting for john to write the gospel???

were all the people doomed since there was no written word that they couldnt read anyway????


21 posted on 11/21/2016 9:06:40 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: raygunfan

Be careful, or you’ll shoot down all Catholic dogma by destroying the words of the scripture YOU want to use.


22 posted on 11/21/2016 9:07:05 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: knarf

funny, i recall a follower of jesus by the name of judas iscariot....worked for jesus in his ministry for a short while.....probably even called him lord as well.....again, you also skipped out on faith alone scripture alone, and all other scripture THAT WASNT WRITTEN YET....


23 posted on 11/21/2016 9:08:51 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: knarf

not a chance, were it not for His One Holy Catholic and Apostolic church, there would be no bible.....


24 posted on 11/21/2016 9:09:44 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: raygunfan

What I am saying, and what you are trying to confuse, is that the Gospels do not have a sinner petitioning Mary for their Salvation or for Mary to act as an intercessor between the sinner and Christ for their salvation, but instead always ask Christ for their forgiveness.

This is what the Apostles taught, that there is no other name under heaven that can save us, and that there is only one mediator, Jesus Christ.

If you think praying to Mary helps you in any way, that’s your prerogative. Just don’t make it a requirement on us who ask Jesus directly for intercession.

As for me, I say, “God, be merciful to me, the sinner!” and “Lord, remember me.”


25 posted on 11/21/2016 9:17:32 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51
Also, the thief did not look down at Mary and ask, “Will you petition your Son to let me into paradise with him?”

And he HAD to have spent time in Purgatory, so Jesus REALLY didn't mean that he would be in paradise with Jesus that same day.
26 posted on 11/21/2016 9:47:25 AM PST by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: kosciusko51

Saying a sinner’s prayer doesn’t save you. Being regenerated by the Holy Spirit is the only way. Until then we are dead and blind to our sinful nature. A dead person doesn’t know he’s dead and therefore can’t do anything about it him/herself.


27 posted on 11/21/2016 9:49:44 AM PST by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: knarf
By grace are ye saved through FAITH, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God not as a result of works, lest anyone should boast. You know, like members of a certain religion do.
28 posted on 11/21/2016 9:53:08 AM PST by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: kosciusko51

no other is required, but how does it hurt to ask His mother to intercede on our behalf...

the wedding at canaan showed some influence there.


29 posted on 11/21/2016 10:11:19 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: raygunfan
Jesus is God ... you think He didn't know Judas ... that Judas just happened ?
30 posted on 11/21/2016 11:57:13 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: raygunfan

Which apostle pastors your church ?


31 posted on 11/21/2016 11:59:59 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: lurk
It was prophesied in the OT that He would die among the transgressors,( Isa 53:12) Contrary to what you said, God almost always tells His prophets what is coming before hand. Bible study is just that, studying the Bible. It is meant to be a lifelong pursuit. A good reference Bible will help you at home, but that means you have to pay attention to the notations and read the references in the center column. As Paul warned the Corinthians, he would love to get them off the milk and onto the meat, but they were yet carnal.

The Bible is like an Easter Egg hunt. There are eggs right out in the open that even a child can understand, yet there are eggs hidden where you have to have the desire to pursue the highest egg count in the end to understand. Most of us pick up the eggs meant for the 5 year old and say, "This is too easy" and move on to other pursuits, never understanding that God has told you so much more if you choose to pursue them. Remember the verses "Knock and it will be opened to you" or "Seek and you will find". The holy Spirit is you teacher and will open your understanding as you seek God.

If you have a reference Bible like mine, you can go to Isa 52-53 and see a whole slew of stars next to the prophetic verses and Jesus fulfilled each and every one. To NOT do so would mean He is a pretender and NOT the Messiah. Jesus was prophesied hundreds of years before His appearance and then appeared and fulfilled each and every prophesy. This way you can have complete confidence that the Bible is true and that Jesus is the Truth, the Way, and The Life, and no one comes to the Father except through Him. Ask a Muslim how many prophesies of Mohammed have come about?

Now that SHOULD strengthen everyone's faith that the Bible is True and accurate in all things, but ask 5 people their opinion of Scripture and you will see varying opinions, from complete disbelief, to absolute Truth. I have come to the faith that the Bible is absolute truth, breathed into man, by the Holy Spirit as it says in Scripture, BTW. The trouble comes when we stop the reading of the Bible and even more so, studying the Bible, as of course we all know it's myths and fables according to the world. I'm old enough to remember praying in school and actually having classes in public school in Bible study. Even atheists knew the Bible but just didn't believe. Today, ask a teen who Noah was, or Jonah, or David and even who Jesus is, and many cannot even recall what they did. We have kids today that never heard of Jesus, let alone the Antichrist.

I'm flabbergasted many times that people know almost nothing about Scripture when it's the most printed book in world history and almost everyone has access of some sort to the Bible. For me it's almost as if blind men are walking across a highway without a dog or a stick and expecting to get where they want to go without even asking directions. People place their entire eternal destination on wives tales and rumors from atheists and liars. God gave us His complete story and we somehow don't want to even read it, let alone speak of it.

Google "Blair Wingo, Allow me to reintroduce the Christ" and listen or read her poetry. In this poem she pretty much speaks on this very subject. An idol is something we have "carved out" in our minds that becomes our "god." Today's gods bare little resemblance to the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. It's all there in the Bible if we just would read it and absorb what God is telling His people.

32 posted on 11/21/2016 12:46:31 PM PST by chuckles
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To: Salvation

Great one!

Love the interesting links too.


33 posted on 11/21/2016 3:11:16 PM PST by Melian (America, bless God. God, bless America.)
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To: vladimir998

Interesting links!


34 posted on 11/21/2016 3:11:50 PM PST by Melian (America, bless God. God, bless America.)
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To: Salvation
G.K. Chesterton:

One thief was saved so that no man might despair.

Only one thief was saved so that no man might presume.

35 posted on 11/21/2016 6:38:50 PM PST by lightman ( Beat the Philly fraud machine the Amish did onest, ja? Vas is das? TRUMPALUTION!)
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To: lightman

Great quote!


36 posted on 11/21/2016 7:11:17 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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