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The Crystal Cathedral Redesign: Why Tasteful Updates Add Up to Architectural Disappointment
The Los Angeles Times ^ | 11/17/16 | Christopher Hawthorne

Posted on 11/18/2016 4:27:34 PM PST by marshmallow

When the Rev. Robert H. Schuller decided in the mid-1970s that his congregation was outgrowing the drive-in, low-slung Garden Grove church that Richard Neutra had designed for him 15 years earlier within earshot of Interstate 5, and that he needed a purpose-built cathedral to accommodate his increasingly popular “Hour of Power” televised sermons, he flew to New York to visit the architecture firm run by Philip Johnson and John Burgee.

On the face of it, Schuller and Johnson were a very strange match, the self-made Orange County televangelist and the smoothly moneyed New York architect who was also an atheist and gay. But at heart they were both salesmen.

Johnson, who always knew how to make headlines, once said, “Whoever commissions buildings, buys me. I am for sale. I am a whore. I am an artist.” Schuller described his Garden Grove compound as “a 22-acre shopping center for Jesus Christ.”

Together, between 1977 and 1980, they produced one of the triumphant landmarks of Southern California kitsch, at 415 feet wide, 207 feet deep and 128 feet high bigger than Notre Dame in Paris. A giant asymmetrical mirrored-glass iceberg of a building, equal parts Bruno Taut’s 1914 Glass Pavilion in Cologne, Germany, and Superman’s Fortress of Solitude, it was immediately dubbed the Crystal Cathedral.

So maybe it was oddly fitting, a kind of historical rhyme, when in the wake of the Schuller ministry’s messy bankruptcy, the buyer that came swooping in to pick up the remains of his empire in 2012 turned out to be the Roman Catholic Diocese of Orange.

For the fire-sale price of $57.5 million the diocese acquired a property that had grown in the intervening years to 36 acres and that included not only the Neutra and Johnson buildings (and their adjacent towers) but a cylindrical, four-story.....

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TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Culture; Worship
KEYWORDS: california; crystalcathedral; dioceseoforange; robertschuller; schuller
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1 posted on 11/18/2016 4:27:34 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: EveningStar

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2 posted on 11/18/2016 4:29:05 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: marshmallow

I have lived a few miles from that place for the last 15 or so years I think its ugly


3 posted on 11/18/2016 4:29:48 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom Its a Joke friends)
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To: marshmallow

Let there be no idols before thee.


4 posted on 11/18/2016 4:35:26 PM PST by soycd
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To: al baby

I just went and looked at some photos and I agree ... there’s no place for it ... it just doesn’t fit.


5 posted on 11/18/2016 4:41:24 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: knarf

Neither did that huckster Schuller


6 posted on 11/18/2016 4:46:08 PM PST by Stayfree (FlushHillary.com says "NEVER HILLARY", "NEVER HILLARY", "NEVER HILLARY")
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To: marshmallow

Robert Schueller was a heretic who deceived millions of people with his false teachings saying, “never call people sinners”, “Islam is a wonderful religion”, “there are many ways to God”


7 posted on 11/18/2016 4:46:24 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: soycd

I’ve never heard anything that contradicts what Schuller presented himself as. An honest, god fearing christian.

Like the Crystal Cathedral or not, it’s just a building, with as they described it.....Kitsch.

Kitsch... little or no artistic merit. That pretty much sums it up.


8 posted on 11/18/2016 4:55:33 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: marshmallow

“Why Tasteful Updates Add Up to Architectural Disappointment”

If they’re so “tasteful” then what’s the problem?


9 posted on 11/18/2016 4:59:07 PM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: marshmallow
THE CRYSTAL CATHEDRAL, designed to win architectural awards, but lost out to the small THORNCROWN CHAPEL in Eureka Springs, ar.
10 posted on 11/18/2016 5:04:21 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Crush your enemies, ..... and to hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: marshmallow

Whenever more than one follower of the Lord meet, there is a Church. I am not sure why they need such a building.


11 posted on 11/18/2016 5:30:48 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: al baby

Just one visit as a tourist—thought it uplifting and impressive. (From inside).


12 posted on 11/18/2016 5:48:30 PM PST by Does so ( 'Time for English as the US' sole National language...==8-O)
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To: al baby

I have done a fair amount of work for them in the past two years. I don’t think the building is ugly at all, and I think this article fairly obviously reveals the Times’ attitude toward religion. That being said, I’m not sure I like the quatrefoil panels that are planned for the substructure within. I’m also not sure the elements that need to change to facilitate Catholic worship work with the overall design of the structure.

On the other hand, I think Christ Cathedral will be much more attractive than the cathedral in Los Angeles.


13 posted on 11/18/2016 5:52:45 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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14 posted on 11/18/2016 6:25:24 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: castlegreyskull
Churches were beautiful because they were called the "house of God."
All those marble floors and gold house our good Lord in appropriate surroundings. He created all those things.

I have no feeling about the crystal cathedral. Maybe it will become housing for the poor...or ARE there poor in Orange County?

15 posted on 11/18/2016 7:13:13 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: castlegreyskull

He started out using a drive-in theater for his church to meet at.


16 posted on 11/18/2016 7:17:50 PM PST by Pelham (the refusal to Deport is defacto Amnesty)
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To: marshmallow

“Crystal Cathedral” is a rather odd name for a denomination that has no bishops, and therefore no use for a cathedral. Kind of like Crispy Cream doughnuts, which are neither crispy nor made with cream, or Chock Full of Nuts coffee, which does not contain a single nut.


17 posted on 11/18/2016 8:20:38 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Why am i not surprised this is from the LA TIMES???


18 posted on 11/20/2016 11:05:16 AM PST by xelliott123 (World Youth Day)
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To: Fiji Hill

I don’t think that was ever the official name, but I’m not certain of that.


19 posted on 11/20/2016 12:23:55 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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20 posted on 12/08/2016 6:35:43 AM PST by Gamecock (Gun owner. Christian. Pro-American. Pro Law and Order. I am in the basket of deplorables.)
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