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Letter from Rome
Would the Vatican Be Happier with Hillary?
Commonweal ^
| November 6, 2016
| Robert Mickens
Posted on 11/07/2016 1:07:42 PM PST by ebb tide
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The prospect of a Trump presidency has sent shivers up the spines of most officials in the Vatican. The Americans who work in the Roman Curia, however, are among a small minority of the Rome-based church bureaucrats who would actually like Trump to win.
Interestingly, Clinton never once visited the Vatican or met with Pope Benedict XVI during her four years as secretary of state (2009-2013). She was the first person in that office to snub the Holy See in some forty years, dating back to 1969-1973, when William Rogers held the post in the first Nixon administration.
But it seems Vatican officials would be more than willing kiss and make up with Hillary if she were to win the election.
One of our real concerns is who she will appoint as U.S. ambassador to the Holy See, one high-ranking official told me.
You are really that confident that shes going to get elected? I asked.
The official replied with a very serious look.
She has to, he said. The other option would be a disaster for the entire world.
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posted on
11/07/2016 1:07:43 PM PST
by
ebb tide
To: ebb tide
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posted on
11/07/2016 1:11:01 PM PST
by
ColdOne
((poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~#MAGA)
To: ColdOne
I don’t follow the religion thread much, rarely in fact. But it seems to me that the Pope’s odd behavior and politics are the root of what problems may be attributed to the Vatican at large, or the Catholic Religion outside of the other problems it has had in the past. I’ll go away now.
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posted on
11/07/2016 1:14:14 PM PST
by
Gaffer
To: ebb tide
*****The prospect of a Trump presidency has sent shivers up the spines of most officials in the Vatican.*****
What spines?
The Catholic Church thinks abortion is just hunky dory?
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posted on
11/07/2016 1:14:37 PM PST
by
sodpoodle
(Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
To: ColdOne
Catholics are voting 20% in favor of trump. That’s all that matters. God comes before any man.
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posted on
11/07/2016 1:15:07 PM PST
by
dp0622
(IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
To: ebb tide
Trump has exposed a whole lot of fakes.
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posted on
11/07/2016 1:15:11 PM PST
by
A message
To: ebb tide
NO. This is just agitprop
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posted on
11/07/2016 1:17:35 PM PST
by
PGR88
To: Gaffer
Many of the catholic churchs here invite invaders. Pope is a Soros Pope. I am Catholic....they have upset me for years.
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posted on
11/07/2016 1:19:14 PM PST
by
ColdOne
((poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~#MAGA)
To: ebb tide
The Vatican is no longer representing THE church! Abrogation of that title was destroyed subsequent to Vatican II.
The present occupant of the pope's quarters is as legitimate a leader as would be Hillary Clinton.
To: ebb tide
This is a stupid question IF anybody has been paying attention. Look what Catholic Nancy Pewlouise, Jon Boehner and Lying Ryan have done to we the people... God says HE hates those that take false oaths and these freaks all took oaths to protect and defend our Constitution... poxs on all of them and their just reward is around the bend.
There is a LONG American History of what has been done to US in the name of Rome... Teddy Kennedy is one of the worst of the worst...
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posted on
11/07/2016 1:39:58 PM PST
by
Just mythoughts
(Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
To: ebb tide
I am pro business. I don't normally diss business because businesses provide jobs that provide livelihoods for people. But it is shocking to me how many big businesses and of course banks are in bed with Hillary and the globalist agenda, despite the fact that publically Hillary and the rats trash businesses in America and claim that businesses are not paying their fair share. It is the same with this Pope. He is all for the globalist agenda. He is all for open borders. He totally minimizes the danger is Islam spreading and Islamic terrorism. Meanwhile, Hillary and the elitist democrats despise the Catholic Church ( as well as evangelicals). But it looks to me like this pope and the top people from the Vatican are in bed with Hillary as well.
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posted on
11/07/2016 1:43:18 PM PST
by
Nevadan
To: ColdOne
Of course. She’s a poster child for abstinence birth control. Who in the world would want her.
red
To: ColdOne
He’s “my pope” who I’ve come to understand well. I listen to him, and do the opposite.
Being Catholic is all about the Eurcharist - everything else now days, to me, is just Jesuit bullcrap. Jesuits are our version of smarmy college professors
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posted on
11/07/2016 2:07:37 PM PST
by
Thickman
(Obama - Professor of the United States)
To: PGR88
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posted on
11/07/2016 2:11:20 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: sodpoodle
The Catholic Church thinks abortion is just hunky dory?
No, the "Church" doesn't. The Catholic catechism is unambiguous on that point. The problem is that many individual priests, bishops and cardinals are political leftists who really couldn't care less abortion. Heck, when he was bishop in Spokane, Cupich actively discouraged priests from engaging in pro-life activities. And for that he got promoted to Cardinal of Chicago.
To: ebb tide
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posted on
11/07/2016 2:18:07 PM PST
by
Billyv
(Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)
To: ebb tide
Outstanding post, thank you.
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posted on
11/07/2016 2:20:54 PM PST
by
heterosupremacist
(Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God ~ Thomas Jefferson)
To: ebb tide
YES - REALLY.
So you are saying Popes aren’t supposed to meet Democrat politicians from the world’s most important country?
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posted on
11/07/2016 3:23:07 PM PST
by
PGR88
To: sodpoodle
Where are you getting that false information?
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posted on
11/07/2016 3:42:55 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: PGR88
So you are saying Popes arent supposed to meet Democrat politicians from the worlds most important country?I'm saying they should not give them photo-ops to the politicians' advantage. Pope Benedict XVI refused to give Nancy Pelosi a photo-op when she visited him.
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posted on
11/07/2016 4:13:12 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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