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To: Morgana

I am against Partial Birth Abortion for reasons of birth control or general inconvenience. I support women’s choice to consider this procedure when her health is clearly in jeoprody. We have to be careful saying it is never, ever justified. Imagine being in her body feeling all that unrelenting pain, and told you must simply accept your lot. I cannot.


3 posted on 10/26/2016 4:48:18 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell

I think we don’t have to be careful about decrying PBA in any circumstances. Reputable OBGYNs have stated categorically that there is no situation where it is the procedure of choice or medically indicated.

Groups including the Christian Medical and Dental Society, the Catholic Medical Association, the American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, and the Physicians Ad Hoc Coalition for the Truth have all stated that partial-birth abortion is a dangerous practice for both mother and child.

In June, Dr. Jane Orient of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons wrote a letter to a Congressional subcommittee, noting that partial-birth abortion “has no medical indications.” Orient went on to say that the doctors in her organization “conceive of no circumstance in which it (partial-birth abortion) would be needed to save the life or preserve the health of a mother.”

Orient noted that, if a pregnant woman was suffering from a complication such as toxemia, her doctor could either perform a Caesarian section or induce labor. “The only purpose of the partial-birth abortion,” Orient wrote, “is to assure that the end of the pregnancy is accompanied by the end of the life of a child about to be born.

Contrary to claims made by the pro-abortion lobbying group NARAL, Orient points out that partial-birth abortion is not a safe practice, since it “carries the risk of maternal injury or death, as by uterine rupture or laceration and hemorrhage.”


12 posted on 10/26/2016 4:55:20 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: lee martell

There is a difference between a preterm delivery and a partial-birth abortion.

In a medically-necessary preterm delivery either labor is induced or the baby is removed from the womb surgically by a C-section. Effort is still made to save both baby and mom. Even if was foreseen that the baby would die, and he or she *does* die, the child dies as a respected human being, even being carefully wrapped and held in the arms if possible.

In a partial-birth abortion, the abortionist deliberately kills the baby, usually by stabbing through its skull. It would be considered a ghastly complication if the baby lived.

The former is a sad but moral decision.

The latter is murder.


15 posted on 10/26/2016 4:59:49 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (There are some things that are so wrong, only an ethics professor could think they're right.)
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To: lee martell
I support women’s choice to consider this procedure when her health is clearly in jeoprody.

Nonsense. They could c-section the baby and the mother would be fine. The doctors don't know jack, they're guessing. What if the baby could recover? I guess she'll never know.

23 posted on 10/26/2016 5:07:46 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: lee martell

The life of the mother is never in danger with modern medicine. You’ve been lied to.


26 posted on 10/26/2016 5:10:47 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: lee martell
There is no, repeat no reason for a partial birth abortion. Ever. If a baby is at 26 weeks gestation and the mother is at risk, then the baby can be delivered via cesarian section to avoid any labor-induced risks to the mother.

Get out, you liberal troll.

30 posted on 10/26/2016 5:16:15 PM PDT by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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To: lee martell

A caesarian is safer to the mother than a late term abortion. There’s a video that was posted on Freepers about a week ago where a doc who had done thousands of abortions was talking about it. So it boils down to her killing her daughter because the daughter had maybe some disability. Maybe. And maybe pain. So take the baby in a caesarian and if she is in pain, manage the pain. If she is going to die, let the little one die. If not and she’s disabled, let the little one know love, not death. Sorry. BS


31 posted on 10/26/2016 5:23:00 PM PDT by Mercat (Men never do evil so fully and cheerfully as when they do it out of conscience.” (Blaise Pascal))
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To: lee martell
Hearing about your almost-born baby daughter "experiencing pain" (For which there is treatment), yet thinking that it's OK for an abortionist to deliver your baby, all but it's head, while holding on to the baby's body, while jammung scissors into the base of the baby's skull and sucking out the baby's entire brain, then crushing the baby's skull, then delivering your dead baby, all without any pain killer while this gruesome act occurs, is acceptable?

Where can any human being think this unspeakable act as a morally acceptable act, in order to "prevent any baby suffering?"

53 posted on 10/26/2016 7:19:28 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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