Survey Finds Most American Christians Are Actually Heretics

The Federalist ^ | OCTOBER 10, 2016 | G. Shane Morris

[WhatNot]

God gets his attention on the Road to Damasus

So, Jesus did not save Paul on the road to Damascus, He merely got Paul's attention.

Whatever!

[boatbums]

Yeah, because I believe God's preserved word, you should give it a try, you'll be amazed at what God can do for you on a day by day basis

So, once again instead of addressing valid questions you avoid (or try to) answering by attacking straw men of your own making. That's neither wise nor commendable in an open debate forum. Do you imagine no one sees your flaccid responses for what they are?

That's what I thought, you are your own authority. What facts? It's all based on what YOU feel you're reading is right, so therefore it must be right! Thanks but no thanks, it's very dangerous, to be your own authority, because in the end you will carve out a god of your own making. And that is the state of the modern church, "However I want to live, God is Ok with it, because I read in my modern bible" That is not the God of the the preserved word, that is the god of this world. How much better to depend on the Holy Spirit who guided fifty-four of the Christian world's foremost scholars and linguists ever, all being peer reviewed by each other for a period of seven years.

Funny how everything you are using to falsely accuse others are the very same fallacies in your OWN arguments! You just don't seem to be capable of understanding how silly your defenses are. Have you found anything these KJV translators stated about their work that indicates they thought they were under Divine inspiration when they translated? No, I couldn't either. Did they pray for guidance? Yes. Did they try to do as good a job as they could trusting that God would use their efforts to bring others to Christ and the knowledge of the truth? Oh, yes, they did. But, they acknowledged their limitations and did not deny that their work could be improved upon - and it was.

All you have with the NWO bibles is the last part, Revised, and boy do they get revised, over and over. So go ahead and trust yourself to what you feel is right, I'll stick with God's preserved word. Oh and as far as your listed NWO bible translations on those verses are concerned, go invest in a good English dictionary, and find out what the words actually mean. Perhaps then you will realize where the NWO is leading you.

False...as is so much of your drivel. How quickly you condemn and never seem able to comprehend the ACTUAL comments being made on this topic. I think you are TOO full of yourself to admit you are wrong in your false judgment. Case in point, the two verses I gave you that show the KJV missed a crucial opportunity to clarify the deity of Jesus Christ - you DO believe He is God, right? In your willful blindness to the few errors that exist in this version, you are, in essence, denying the role of the Holy Spirit in revealing the truth through the sacred word. These translators, though strong Christians, were humble enough to admit they were not infallible. Though God's word is perfect, it doesn't always translate perfectly to other languages.

If you cannot see the difference between "the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ" and "our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ" or between "the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ" and "the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ", then I don't think you can presume to be the judge and jury over what others use in studying God's word. To me, it sounds like you doubt the Holy spirit is able to lead others into all truth regardless of what version they use.

And if you don't like my answer in this reply, please keep it to yourself, because you seriously bore me.

Nope. Though I'm sure it would delight you to imagine you have me cowering afraid to take you on, think again, your challenges are child's play. Though certainly boring to keep having to explain these points over and over, I think it is important to defend God's word and not limit the Holy Spirit in His power to reveal the truth to all those who diligently seek Him.

[WhatNot]

God is not 'boatbums' authority, The Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are not 'boatbums' authority, the Apostle Paul is not 'boatbums' authority. I'm certainly not 'boatbums' authority.

'boatbums' is 'boatbums' authority, because 'boatbums' decides what is right and what is wrong, for 'boatbums, 'boatbums' is the final jusdge, (certainly not the preserved word of God)

So, who am I to question 'boatbums' authority?

bye,bye 'boatbums'

[boatbums]

"Translated out of the Original tongues: & with the former Translations diligently compared and revised, All you have with the NWO bibles is the last part, Revised, and boy do they get revised, over and over. So go ahead and trust yourself to what you feel is right, I'll stick with God's preserved word.

And, just so you don't skip on past this important point, the very same translators of the King James Version specifically stated this in their Preface:

Now to the later we answere; that wee doe not deny, nay wee affirme and avow, that the very meanest translation of the Bible in English, set foorth by men of our profession (for wee have seene none of theirs of the whole Bible as yet) containeth the word of God, nay, is the word of God. As the Kings Speech which hee uttered in Parliament, being translated into French, Dutch, Italian and Latine, is still the Kings Speech, though it be not interpreted by every Translator with the like grace, nor peradventure so fitly for phrase, nor so expresly for sence, every where. For it is confessed, that things are to take their denomination of the greater part; and a naturall man could say, Verùm ubi multa nitent in carmine, non ego paucis offendor maculis, &c. A man may be counted a vertuous man, though hee have made many slips in his life, (els, there were none vertuous, for in many things we offend all) also a comely man and lovely, though hee have some warts upon his hand, yea, not onely freakles upon his face, but all skarres. No cause therefore why the word translated should bee denied to be the word, or forbidden to be currant, notwithstanding that some imperfections and blemishes may be noted in the setting foorth of it. For what ever was perfect under the Sunne, where Apostles or Apostolike men, that is, men indued with an extraordinary measure of Gods spirit, and priviledged with the priviledge of infallibilitie, had not their hand?

Sounds to me like they understood what the goal was for which they labored as well as the limitations they worked under as mere men. Pay attention to the part where they state, No cause therefore why the word translated should bee denied to be the word, or forbidden to be currant, notwithstanding that some imperfections and blemishes may be noted in the setting foorth of it. I ask by what authority do YOU presume to declare every OTHER translation is the devil's work and anyone who would study and learn from them is part of a New World Order designed to deceive?

You are acting like a cult, talking like a cult, walking like a cult...but, you are not a cult? Clean off that mirror why doncha?

[boatbums]

Still being goofy and childish, I see.

[boatbums]

AND...you’re still avoiding the “hard” questions.

[WhatNot]

You're the sovereign, you make the decisions on right and wrong, who am I to question you?

Again, bye bye 'boatbums'

[boatbums]

You’re the cultist deciding who is a Christian based on what Bible version they study.

Toodles!

[boatbums]

AND...you’re still avoiding the “hard” questions.

[WhatNot]

And you're still the monarch, who would dare oppose you?

Certainly not me.

Bye 'boatbums'

[WhatNot]

You’re the cultist deciding who is a Christian based on what Bible version they study.

Yes, your Majesty, so let it be written, so let it be done. 'boatbums has made the declaration, who dare oppose 'boatbums'

Bye 'boatbums'

[boatbums]

Yeah, you’re right about one thing...this is quite a boring discussion especially when you won’t answer questions raised about the things you proclaim. If all you want to do is preach at people and condemn them for not being in your cult, maybe you SHOULD open your own thread. I’m sure the person who posted this one didn’t intend for it to devolve like this.

So long! See ya. Wouldn’t want to BE ya!

[WhatNot]

So long! See ya. Wouldn’t want to BE ya!

The feeling is more than mutual!

bye 'boatbums'

[WhatNot]

So long! See ya. Wouldn’t want to BE ya!

The feeling is more than mutual!

bye 'boatbums'