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The Francis Effect discussed in the New York Times
Rorate Caeli ^ | 9/28/2016 | Kenneth J. Wolfe

Posted on 09/29/2016 10:44:59 AM PDT by ebb tide

Perhaps the greatest accomplishment of the papacy of Pope Francis is his unification of traditional Catholics and conservative Catholics. What started as an uncivil war in March 2013 -- when traditional Catholic sources such as Rorate (which was intimately familiar with Cardinal Bergoglio's work in Argentina) predicted a massive shift to the left, only to be harshly criticized by many Catholic conservatives who blindly defended Bergoglio as one who would continue the incremental restoration of Pope Benedict XVI -- has grown to a point where both camps are now singing from the same Liber.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic
KEYWORDS: francischurch
The New York Times Op-Ed is a very interesting read, coming from a secular newspaper.

Has Pope Francis Failed

1 posted on 09/29/2016 10:45:00 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

The absolute last place I’d look for information on Catholicism is the NYT or WAPO or CNN or any of the other anti-Christian sources.


2 posted on 09/29/2016 10:47:11 AM PDT by kiwikit
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To: ebb tide

We live in amazing times!

Revelation 17
6 I saw that the woman was drunk on the blood of the holy ones and on the blood of the witnesses to Jesus.
When I saw her I was greatly amazed.

7 The angel said to me, “Why are you amazed? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, the beast with the seven heads and the ten horns.

http://www.usccb.org/bible/revelation/17


3 posted on 09/29/2016 10:52:09 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: ebb tide
Perhaps the greatest accomplishment of the papacy of Pope Francis is his unification of traditional Catholics and conservative Catholics.

Depends on what your definition of "unification," is.

4 posted on 09/29/2016 10:57:28 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: kiwikit
But that's precisely the point --- the intriguing detail here. What is the NYT doing, publishing the opinion of First Things editor Matthew Schmitz? Schmitz --- who suggests that Pope Francis has taken off in a wrong dirction, and gis pontificate is a failure --- is not by any means a NYT liberal! Here's some of his work:

Has Pope Francis Failed?
New York Times, September 28, 2016

Ordaining Women Isn’t the Answer
Catholic Herald, August 3, 2016

Donald Trump, Man of Faith
First Things, August 2016

Liberal Catholicism’s Unexpected Crisis
The Catholic Herald, July 21, 2016

The Death Penalty Is Just and Merciful
National Review, May 29, 2015


5 posted on 09/29/2016 11:12:29 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The eye can't say to the hand, I don't need you; the head can't say to the feet, I don't need you.")
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To: Talisker

Must have been a typo. It should have been disunification.


6 posted on 09/29/2016 12:48:02 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: ebb tide
unification of traditional Catholics and conservative Catholics

The who and the what now?

7 posted on 09/29/2016 1:52:04 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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