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Do “Good” People Go To Hell?
http://www.theignorantfishermen.com ^ | 09-19-16 | DJP I.F.

Posted on 09/24/2016 6:51:14 AM PDT by kindred

My dear friends, one of Satan’s biggest lies and deceptions that the children of Adam have eagerly received and have been deceived by since the fall in Eden is that “good” people go to Heaven (Isa. 1:18, Rom. 1:18-32,3, 10:2-4, 2 Cor. 4:3-4, Eph. 2:1-2, James 2:10).

Heaven itself is all vanity and desolation if Almighty God and His ETERNAL RIGHTEOUS Person are absent from it (Rev. 21, 22:1-5). How the millions and may I say billions of this world’s inhabitants have sought to remake or redefine Almighty God’s RIGHTEOUS Person and His ETERNAL RIGHTEOUS Heaven with a corrupt fallen one using the fallen and sinful flesh and mind (Rom. 10:2-4, 1 John 2:15-17, Jude 1:10, Rev. 21:8, 22:15). If one does NOT want to fellowship in SPIRIT and TRUTH (John 4:24) nor hear or obey Almighty God’s RIGHTEOUS Word and Precepts then why would one ever want to go to Almighty God’s RIGHTEOUS Heaven (Matt. 6:10)? They would FOREVER despise Almighty God and His RIGHTEOUS Heaven and continue in their godless rebellion. In the end, TRUE Heaven would be an absolute torment to them (Prov. 29:27, John3:19-21).

If one does NOT want to fellowship in SPIRIT and TRUTH nor hear or obey Almighty God’s RIGHTEOUS Word and Precepts then why would one ever want to go to Almighty God’s RIGHTEOUS Heaven?

These haters of ETERNAL RIGHTEOUSNESS would NEVER want to abide in such a place and so by REJECTING the Savior of the world and His ETERNAL remedies for their lost fallen estate they have FULLY chosen to reject going to Almighty God’s Heaven in which dwells Almighty God’s RIGHTEOUS Person (John3:16-17, 36, 1 Cor. 15:24-28, Rev. 21, 22;1-5). I myself and I am sure that you also know many dear conservative moral individuals who are trusting THEIR “good” works and not fully and completely in the PERSON and WORK of God the Son (John 3:36, 6:28-29, Rom. 5:1-2, 10:2-4, Eph. 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7, 1 John 2:2). Tragically these though very moral and conservative are trusting in THEIR conservatism. They are just as godless, lawless and wicked because in their heart of hearts they have deceived themselves and have rejected REALITY and the ETERNAL RIGHTEOUS demanded by Almighty God (Rom. 10:2-4).

Oh my dear friends how many have drunk the demonic kool- aid of self righteousness unto ETERNAL damnation and ruin.

Whether you are liberal, moderate or conservative, virtuous, vile, wretched, moral or wherever you might find yourself on the human ideological spectrum; ALL have TRANSGRESSED and ALL have FALLEN SHORT of the RIGHTEOUSNESS of Almighty God (Isa. 53:6, Rom. 3:23). As it were, all of Adam’s fallen race area broken egg (Rom. 5:12-21). TRUE insanity in light of the ETERNAL RIGHTEOUS Person of Almighty God is the mindset of people who have deceived themselves and believe that they – as fallen individuals for all practical purposes are “good”; and not just”good” but”good” enough and not just good enough but PERFECTLY RIGHTEOUS to stand PERFECTLY before the ETERNAL RIGHTEOUS Person of Almighty God in the Day of Judgment. Oh my dear friends how many have drunk the demonic kool- aid of self righteousness unto ETERNAL damnation and ruin (Matt.7:21-23). This mindset is the ultimate position of defiance that one can make to seek to justify ones actions throughout time (Matt. 7:21-24).

Each human being has conceived and has created in their heart their “own” standard of what “good” is (Rom. 1:18-32, Jude 1)? These have blindly, ignorantly and even consciously rewritten the ETERNAL moral absolutes of Almighty God; they have twisted the Holy Scriptures redefining RIGHTEOUSNESS and have allowed their lawless mind, fallen nature and unbounded emotions to dictate and mandate that which is “good” based on fallen humanities own image and likeness (Rom. 1:18-32, Jude 1:10). These (liberal, moderate or conservative) throughout their existence in time (born-die) have made continual comparisons with each other; always lowering the common denominator of “good” to their worse acquaintance seeking to justifying themselves in light of fallen humans and NEVER by the ETERNAL PERFECT STANDARD of Jesus Christ (Psalm 19:7,Rom. 10:2-4, 2 Cor. 10:2,18). Tragically the “good” in which people are trusting in is ETERNALLY in contrast with the RIGHTEOUS PERFECT ETERNAL ABSOLUTES of Almighty God (Psalm 19:7, 119:160, Rom. 10:2-4, James 2:10). If we as fallen humanity leave Almighty God and His Word out of the ETERNAL equation of the TRUE definition of “good” then we only deceive ourselves and our willful ignorance will not deliver us in the Day of Judgment (Rev. 20:11-15). Almighty God has put in the heart of every human being that we ALL are accountable to our Creator and that we all need God’s Savior (John 1:1-5, Rom. 1;18-32). When we reject this Divine revelation we are left only with ETERNAL EVERLASTING ruin and perdition for our fallen humanity and estate (Isa. 48:22, Matt. 13:42, Rev.20:11-15, 21:8, 22:11).

If we as fallen humanity leave Almighty God and His Word out of the ETERNAL equation of the TRUE definition of “good” then we only deceive ourselves and our willful ignorance will not deliver us in the Day of Judgment.

My dear friends, contrary to mankind’s zealous self pretensions, disastrous perceptions and illusions “good” people DO NOT go to Heaven but are faced with FULL BLOWN REALITY of how lawless and vile they truly are and have been (Rom. 7). When one finally stands before the ETERNAL RIGHTEOUS PERSON of ALMIGHTY GOD the SON in that dreadful Day of reckoning no one will say boo (Rev. 20:11-15). All self imposed delusions, and deceptions will be totally EXPOSED and UNMASKED and ETERNAL REALITY and RIGHTEOUSNESS will be ETERNALLY manifested before the eyes of the lost soul. Oh my dear friends how wretched the individual will be in that Day. For all is established ETERNALLY and ETERNITY is EVER before that individual as they live out their ETERNAL EXISTENCE subject to the ETERNAL RIGHTEOUSNESS of Almighty God FOREVER (Mark 9:48, Rev.21:8).

My friend, in Heaven there are NO “good” people but ONLY those who have been redeemed by the Lamb of Almighty God. A TRUE Christian today or believer is one who truly recognizes that they have ZERO of the required PERFECT RIGHTEOUSNESS to stand before a HOLY, PERFECT and RIGHTEOUS God (Luke 18:13, Rom. 7:25-26) and have placed their complete trust in the Person and Work of Almighty God the Son; the Lord Jesus Christ (John 3:16-17,Rom. 10:2-4).

My friend, in Heaven there are NO “good” people but ONLY those who have been redeemed by the Lamb of Almighty God. A TRUE Christian today or believer is one who truly recognizes that they have ZERO of the required PERFECT RIGHTEOUSNESS to stand before a HOLY, PERFECT and RIGHTEOUS God.

My dear friend, if you are one of these moral relativist or RIGHTEOUS relativists who is deceiving themselves in to believing that you are “good enough” to inherit ETERNAL LIFE and ETERNAL pardon for your countless transgressions (heart, soul and mind) against the PERFECT LAW of Almighty God; then may you abandon your delusion and come to grips with ETERNAL REALITY. Why hide in a delusion. ALMIGHTY God LOVES you and sent His Son to DIE and be your PROPITIATION for YOU that you may live FOREVER with HIM in ETERNAL RIGHTEOUS bliss and harmony (John 3:16-17, 1 Cor. 2:9, Rev. 21, 22:1-5).

My dear friend I personally do not know how to say anything more wonderful than that!

Delusion leads to confusion and then deception leads to rejection, which in the end brings about ETERNAL damnation. My dear friend may you chooseREPENTANCE, LIFE and REALITY with the Savior; for you will NEVER be the same again!

THE Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!

DJP I.F.

We Are a Broken Egg


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Good works may be good indeed, the sad truth is that they can not save those who do them as they are vanity when compared to the good works of fulfilling every jot and tittle of God's righteous law, which all but Jesus Christ have failed to do. Hence, good works can not save any person who strives for goodness as sin is the lot of the children of Adam, of whom God the Father has spoken of saying,

Matthew 7: 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

Being children of Adam in the flesh, we are of them that are and were enemies of God and who must be redeemed by the faith only without our good works in the precious and sinless blood of the Son of God, Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour of them that believe. We are the broken egg since Adam fell. Only God's grace obtained by faith of Jesus Christ can redeem us from the fall and bring us unto God. We must all be at the cross of Christ and know and admit as the centurion did, " Truly, this was the Son of God ". All sinners, all who draw breath of mankind, were like him and responsible for His death as we are the children of them who did these things against God the Father's only begotten Son, who was He who both descended from Heaven to become Jesus, the Son of God, the Son of Man, and He who ascended back up to heaven after His resurrection from the dead, the First Begotten from the dead, even Jesus Christ, the sinless perfect Lamb of God.

Romans 3: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:

16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:

17 And the way of peace have they not known:

18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.

19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Hence,

Ephesians2: 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

1 posted on 09/24/2016 6:51:14 AM PDT by kindred
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To: kindred

you forgot to use the word RIGHTEOUSNESS in the article :)


2 posted on 09/24/2016 6:53:52 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: kindred

Do so-called “good people” go to Hell?

Depends on what your definition of “good” is, I suppose. Never met one, actually.


3 posted on 09/24/2016 6:55:04 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: kindred

There is probably a special circle for ALLCAP folks.


4 posted on 09/24/2016 6:55:38 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: kindred

couldn’t figure out, was the answer yes or no?


5 posted on 09/24/2016 6:57:04 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: beebuster2000

During the first Passover, did good people die if they stayed in the street?

Ans: Yes

Did bad people live if they got inside a house with the covering of blood?

Ans: Yes

Conclusion: it is not the goodness or badness that counts, but one’s acceptance of the refuge (or atonement)

One doesn’t earn it with good deeds, one just accepts it.


6 posted on 09/24/2016 6:59:16 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: beebuster2000

Don’t worry. When God lets bad things happen
to good people, He balances it out by letting
good things happen to bad people.


7 posted on 09/24/2016 6:59:45 AM PDT by sparklite2 (When they play the race card, play the Trump card.)
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To: kindred
ALL have TRANSGRESSED and ALL have FALLEN SHORT of the RIGHTEOUSNESS of Almighty God (Isa. 53:6, Rom. 3:23).

You forgot to ask the question "Why do we fall short?"

Joh 3:19-20 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.

So, no, there are no good people and they like it that way. Only God can change the heart.

8 posted on 09/24/2016 7:03:04 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: sparklite2

Interesting...

Perhaps heaven and hell are the same place. To the bad people it is hell, and to the good ones it’s heaven.


9 posted on 09/24/2016 7:08:38 AM PDT by babygene (Make America Great Again)
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To: kindred
Do “Good” People Go To Hell?

According to the ultimate Authority on the subject there is none good but God alone.

So the answer is no.

10 posted on 09/24/2016 7:09:09 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles!)
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To: kindred

I believe it’s not my concern who goes where. I have no clue about that. I just try to stay out of trouble and be alert to the Lord.


11 posted on 09/24/2016 7:09:31 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: kindred
Thank you for the post; it is good that the Word is broadcast to all.

Faith without works is dead (James 2:17). None of us are righteous in ourselves or our works, nor can any 'earn' salvation through works (martyrdom is a whole different topic). We are only saved by the precious Blood of the Lamb, our Lord Jesus Christ, who told us that He is the Truth, the Life and the Way - "No one comes to the Father but by Me." (John 14:6)
12 posted on 09/24/2016 7:17:14 AM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: oldplayer
The Scriptures plainly declare that there are no good people and that all the children of Adam and Eve are children of deceit and sinners against God, the best of us are still sinners by birth, from the womb of the fallen race. God sent His only begotten Son, conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of a virgin, born under the Jewish law, even Jesus Christ, the anointed one of God, to be our Sin Sacrifice and He became our Saviour after rising from the dead and is the Firstbegotten from the dead to everlasting life in the body of flesh, as He was sinless and death could not hold Him.
13 posted on 09/24/2016 7:17:48 AM PDT by kindred (Jesus is Lord and Saviour. Donald Trump would help make America great again.)
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To: oldplayer

Jesus said ‘no man is good but God’.

Everything He said is true.

The Jews were self-righteous because they thought the “bar” that God wanted man to perform to was the 10 Commandments.

But God looks at the heart, not the outward - so Jesus spoke the Sermon on the Mount - where He said, in essence, “You thought the bar was here....(10 commandments), but since God sees the heart, the real bar is here: ‘if any man look at a woman with lust, he is guilty of adultery; if any man hate his brother, he is guilty of murder.”

With the bar being that God sees the heart - we all are guilty sinners, whose only hope is to fall on our faces before a holy, righteous and loving God and cry out for forgiveness - because He gave His Son for us, whose shed blood cleanses us from all sin, and Who is our only righteousness......


14 posted on 09/24/2016 7:18:25 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: kindred
Why is this in News/Activism?
But, ok, I'll play.
All too common I see this (good works are minimized in favor of "faith"), and the following passage from James is almost always omitted:

James 2:14-26

14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food,
16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that?
17 So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

18 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.
19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!
20 Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar?
22 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works;
23 and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”—and he was called a friend of God.
24 You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.
25 And in the same way was not also Rahab the prostitute justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way?
26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead."

Not slamming anyone here, but it is, I think, one of the reasons at the root of the complaints some have about the hypocrisy in certain segments of Christianity.

I know of a specific example of a "born again" who preached to co-workers about "faith" (often turning them off because his behavior spoke otherwise in terms of how he dealt with people), honestly believed that once "born again" one had a golden ticket to heaven, and who also actively stole pricey equipment from the job site.

For the latter, one can point to Matthew 7:16, following the warning against false prophets, but equally applies to those who say one thing, but their actions say something quite another.

And on that, this should really be in the religion forum.

15 posted on 09/24/2016 7:18:47 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (For every Allende, there is a Pinochet)
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To: kindred

Of course good people don’t go to Hell.

To think otherwise is ridiculous.

The question is who is good? And the answer is none of us. That is why we need someone who is good and can give us His righteousness and take our sin on himself..


16 posted on 09/24/2016 7:20:48 AM PDT by Gamecock (Gun owner. Christian. Pro-American. Pro Law and Order. I am in the basket of deplorables.)
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To: kindred

Deuteronomy 4:19 & Malachi 1:11.


17 posted on 09/24/2016 7:21:01 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: HarleyD

God does indeed change the heart if any sinner believes on Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour. Good works are fruitless and ultimate vanity, as is all religions of the world, only faith in the Good Work of God by Jesus Christ, He who was with sin and willingly gave Himself for Sinners, can save a man. It is not church going or countless denomination prayers, but rather faith alone by grace alone in Jesus Christ alone that can and does save a man from death and hell.


18 posted on 09/24/2016 7:22:29 AM PDT by kindred (Jesus is Lord and Saviour. Donald Trump would help make America great again.)
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To: dp0622

Paraphrasing a FReeper (sadly I can’t recall whom but I bet all y’all know: Gosh darns bad people to heck.


19 posted on 09/24/2016 7:26:47 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Never Trump=Always hiLIARy)
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To: freedumb2003

hey, the language. This is a family board. :)

and here’s hoping he makes an exception for me!!


20 posted on 09/24/2016 7:28:28 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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