Judging non-Catholics

OSV.com ^ | 08-17-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

[Mark17]

But they ARE mentioned in the things a Mormon MUST do to be TOTALLY worthy!

Well, whether it's Mormon magic underwear, or the Catholic scapular, ultimately, what difference at this time does it make?
On the other hand, all this stuff is useless to me. I just want to know how they plan to bluff their way into Heaven. 😀😆😄

[Mark17]

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Oh, now you have done it. The Mormons are going to come and harass you unmercifully. Confronting them with facts, only increases their obstinate thinking. Does that sound like any others you can think of? 😀

[Resettozero]

I just want to know how they plan to bluff their way into Heaven.

They've stationed their first pope at the gate. He'll let them in like a private nightclub doorman willing to be bribed.

(Of, of a truth, one of the first things many on the broad way will observe upon their resurrection...a big honking white high and lifted-up seat for Almighty God or whoever He assigns to sit upon it.)

[Elsie]

 Mormon garments (underwear) aren't secret.   They are, however, sacred.  

 

 

 Then; I suppose; one could read about them in Mormonism's sacred writings.  Let's go searching!

 

 

 

https://www.lds.org/ensign/1997/08/the-temple-garment-an-outward-expression-of-an-inward-commitment?lang=eng    (Be sure to click the links to Scripture to see if the garment is specifically mentioned.)

 

 

http://www.ldschurchtemples.com/mormon/underwear/

 

 

 

[Elsie]

The Mormons are going to come and harass you unmercifully.

No; we won't. We LOVE Elsie and hope he can see the Light before his death.

But if not, we will get proxy baptized for him so that he CAN make the RIGHT decision after achieving a temperature of roughly 50-55°.

[Elsie]

They've stationed their first pope at the gate.

THE gate?

There are 12 of them!

Revelation 21:10-25

 

10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.
19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;
20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.
21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.
22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

[Elsie]

And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald; 20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.

Crystal Cave in Mexico

[Resettozero]

I was referring to the “gate” for certain more-religious, more-pious, and more-educated FR cultists. A “gate” around the backside of Heaven, where their first pope is holding up the bottom strand of barbed wire so they can slither under with no One noticing.

Just answering the question posed.

[Mark17]

They've stationed their first pope at the gate. He'll let them in like a private nightclub doorman willing to be bribed.

A screen door on a submarine would work better than someone trying to bribe their way into Heaven.

Of, of a truth, one of the first things many on the broad way will observe upon their resurrection...a big honking white high and lifted-up seat for Almighty God or whoever He assigns to sit upon it.

You are correct sir. Many people on the broad way that leads to destruction, think the Great White Throne, is to determine whether they are saved or lost. I have news for them. The possible reason that the Great White Throne is white, is that it is white with heat. Whatever it is, it is there to determine their amount of punishment in the Lake of Fire, not to determine whether they are saved or lost. They are LOST FOREVER.
My opinion is, those of us who are saved will be there too, when the men of Ninevah rise in judgment over this generation, and condemn it, for they repented at the preaching of Jonah. When the Queen of Sheba will rise in judgment over this generation, and condemn it, for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth, to hear the wisdom of Solomon.
We will rise as well, not that we have any power to judge, we will simply agree with the judgment of God. What a terrifying moment for billions, as they frantically try to figure out how they are going to endure the flames of Hell forever. I also wonder how they will endure Hell for eternity.

[daniel1212]

Pay attention, for a moment, if you’re capable. I write critiques of serious history, under a ‘nom de plume’; for ranking publications.

Snobbery is no excuse, even if it is a reason, for lack of argument and refusal to answer questions which you need to face since you chose to enter the debate here, and to present the pope as the solution to division.

[ealgeone]

Pay attention, for a moment, if you’re capable.

I write critiques of serious history, under a ‘nom de plume’; for ranking publications.

Perhaps you could point us to some of your work. I love history.

What topic, time period, etc do you write about?

[ealgeone]

If you're looking for either an agrument or a unitary contest I' have no interest. Do you understand

You don't perhaps play chess with pigeons do you?

[metmom]

I accepted Christ at 22.

Young but still old enough to have regrets about things I did.

[metmom]

An open mind is the portal to wisdom!

An open mind is an invitation to deception.

Which explains a lot.....

[metmom]

I suspect so, myself.....

[knarf]

OH my FRiend ... I think every ONE of us late bloomers can point to dozens of times when we can say, "THAT was God's miraculous hand on my life" or "THAT was when an angel held me up out of the waters"

No return yet on my passport ... still thinkin' about it I guess, but we'll have a ton of stories to share when we sit down with a small glass of tubah.

[Mark17]

You don't perhaps play chess with pigeons do you?

LOL. I wondered when someone was going to ask that question. 😀

[Resettozero]

...we'll have a ton of stories to share when we sit down with a small glass of tubah.

Is that anything like Paul Ostborg's (Senior) homemade rose-petal wine?

(None in more than 30 years...but I do remember small sips taken with purest delight.)

[Mark17]

No return yet on my passport ... still thinkin' about it I guess, but we'll have a ton of stories to share when we sit down with a small glass of tubah

We get fresh coconuts, right off the tree, several days a week. Mmmm. Chop open the coconut, pour it into the pitcher, put it in the refrigerator, and drink it cold. Ah yes, this is the life. Come on over bro. 😀

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“Well, whether it’s Mormon magic underwear, or the Catholic scapular, ultimately, what difference at this time does it make? “

They are identical in spiritual value, neither an object of saving faith.

Christ alone can give eternal life to those who turn from themselves and to Him alone. Pride and self-righteousness keeps wearers of both from eternal life, by focusing on their own attempts to earn salvation through their own pitiful attempts.

They can have eternal life today, if they accept His righteousness and forsake their own.