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Eucharist in the creed?
OSV.com ^ | 07-20-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 07/23/2016 9:19:23 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: cloudmountain
The Introduction of the FOUR WITNESSES The Early Church in Her Own Words. starts out:

The Early Church in it's Own Words...

Made SURE that the 15th chapter of ACTS was included in the bible.


But now, 2000 or so years later; it makes me wonder why; as it seems to be quite ignored these days.

141 posted on 07/26/2016 11:57:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: cloudmountain
It's the Last Supper celebrated every day for Catholics.

So Rome ADDED to the rituals that were good enough for the Jews.

OK then.

142 posted on 07/26/2016 11:58:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rwa265
Surely no one can disagree with what the angel Gabriel said to Mary.

Surely a thinking person can disagree with Rome's teaching that Mary AGREED to what was told WAS going to happen to her.

143 posted on 07/26/2016 12:02:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

When I received my Greetings letter from Uncle Sam back in 1971, I agreed to what I was told was going to happen to me.


144 posted on 07/26/2016 1:19:45 PM PDT by rwa265 (For with God nothing shall be impossible. Luke 1:37)
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To: rwa265
Placemarker, right here.................>> X
145 posted on 07/26/2016 1:49:00 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: rwa265

Actually, there are things that are not possible.

He cannot sin, for example.

Once you strip a verse from its context and try to make it a universal saying, you run into problems.

Again, we are back to “study to show yourself approved, a workman who rightly handles the Word of Truth,” and “... Love the Lord your God with all your ... mind.”


146 posted on 07/26/2016 1:53:46 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Elsie
So Rome ADDED to the rituals that were good enough for the Jews. OK then.

YES, since Jews didn't believe that Jesus was the Son of God who died for our sins and gave us His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity to consume every day.
But you would know that if you were a Catholic, though many Christians only believe in the FIRST part.

147 posted on 07/26/2016 2:01:14 PM PDT by cloudmountain (.)
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To: Elsie
But now, 2000 or so years later; it makes me wonder why; as it seems to be quite ignored these days.

Who's ignoring that chapter?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Jerusalem
The Council of Jerusalem or Apostolic Council was held in Jerusalem around 50 AD. It is unique among the ancient pre-ecumenical councils in that it is considered by Catholics and Orthodox to be a prototype and forerunner of the later ecumenical councils and a key part of Christian ethics.
The council decided that Gentile converts to Christianity were not obligated to keep most of the Law of Moses, including the rules concerning circumcision of males. The Council did, however, retain the prohibitions on eating blood, meat containing blood, and meat of animals not properly slain, and on fornication and idolatry, sometimes referred to as the Apostolic Decree or Jerusalem Quadrilateral.

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There have been councils all through the 2000 year history of the Church. But, you would know that if you were a Catholic.

148 posted on 07/26/2016 2:07:58 PM PDT by cloudmountain (.)
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To: Elsie
Mackeral snapper is SO passe' these days...

Personal insults show the entire site a glimpse of your character...or lack of it.

149 posted on 07/26/2016 2:09:18 PM PDT by cloudmountain (.)
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To: Zuriel
Well, you certainly are free to take them spiritually. For us Catholics, it's figurative.
One needs food for a journey, whether it's across the states, North America or the world.

One also needs food for our spiritual journey to spend eternity with our good Lord. Holy Communion is that Sacred food for that journey-to-eternity of ours.
It's the most important of our existence because our goal to heaven is for eternity.

Hell is eternity without God.

150 posted on 07/26/2016 2:13:21 PM PDT by cloudmountain (.)
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To: Zuriel
http://biblehub.com/john/6-53.htm

Jesus said that we are to eat His Flesh and drink His Blood. But, you apparently thought He was incorrect or wrong or something. How could He have put it more plainly?

151 posted on 07/26/2016 2:15:58 PM PDT by cloudmountain (.)
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To: cloudmountain

Food? Is the body JESUS now occupies in Heaven having The Life distributed throughout the tissues by blood coursing through that body?... Let’s see how well you know your Catholic Bible.


152 posted on 07/26/2016 3:02:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“believe He means it when He says the bread that is given us to eat is His body.”

Then why didn’t the Apostles believe that? They were actually in the room when Christ said those words, yet there is no evidence of any Apostle carrying it out as if the elements could change.

How is it that you came to a different belief and practice than the Apostles?

Why do you choose to believe what they never did in practice.


Based on Scripture alone, neither you nor I can say with any degree of certainty what the Apostles believed and practiced regarding the Eucharist. Scripture makes no mention of what they believed. Scripture does not describe what the Apostles did in practice.

Based on my study of Scripture and various commentaries, I have concluded that my beliefs are in accord with what the Apostles believed. I realize that you have a different belief, which is fine. As you indicated in a previous post, people have freedom to examine Scripture and find their own answers.

Peace,
Rich


153 posted on 07/26/2016 3:12:12 PM PDT by rwa265 (For with God nothing shall be impossible. Luke 1:37)
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To: rwa265

Rich, we have a record, starting in Acts and continuing through the epistles detailing what the Apostles commanded the churches and what they did - over decades.

Your belief never appears in the biblical record. Not any of the 12 Apostles, who heard Christ’s words, are recorded acting out your belief. Nor did any of the 12 Apostles instruct or teach any church to carry out what you believe.

We do have a record of churches celebrating feasts and the Lord’s Supper - the simple breaking of bread.

You might as well believe pizza gives you better access to God. That has as much biblical support.

Sadly.


154 posted on 07/26/2016 3:38:56 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Odd that the first recorded council of the Believers given in Acts had nothing to say about all the added parts of catholiciism when they sent their letter to the new believers. But then some catholics can find things that are not there simply by appealing to ‘traditions’.


155 posted on 07/26/2016 4:21:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; metmom; boatbums; daniel1212; MHGinTN; knarf; mitch5501
Do you remember back when you didn’t know Christ and believed whatever the Catholic Church told you

I do remember sir, but I was kind of rebellious. When I was told I couldn't read the Bible for myself, the first thing I did, was get a Bible, and read it for myself.

Do you remember when you came to know Christ and His Word opened up to your heart?

I do remember sir, but it took about a month for me to completely understand it, to a point where I felt comfortable committing the sin of presumption, by having total assurance of salvation.
I was baptized in the swimming pool at Bien Hoa Air Base, Republic of South Vietnam, along with two others. We made 7th Air Force News. It was a hot day, so it was nice. 😇👍

156 posted on 07/26/2016 6:46:51 PM PDT by Mark17 (The love of God, how rich and pure, how measureless and strong. It shall forevermore endure.)
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To: Mark17; aMorePerfectUnion; metmom; boatbums; daniel1212; MHGinTN; knarf; mitch5501
I don't think I was ever a practicing Catholic after age 15 or so.

We went to church because we were supposed to and in mid teens, we'd skip church and spend the time at a Friendly's, eating ice cream and hanging out with our friends just like after school.

There was never a spiritual consciousness other than the hippie stuff of the hippie era ... which I utilized to ball the girls.

In 1981, I met Jesus with no build up to a spiritual experience except ... I had reached the end of "my" rope and Eddie Klein witnessed to me ... and I met Jesus.

157 posted on 07/26/2016 6:56:43 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true ... and it ticks people off)
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To: knarf; metmom; MHGinTN; boatbums; Gamecock
I don't think I was ever a practicing Catholic after age 15 or so.

I think I was about 12, but I went through the motions, so I could keep doing the only thing I really wanted to do, play hockey. Go Blackhawks. Go Sioux, 2016 NCAA champions. 🏒👍

158 posted on 07/26/2016 7:14:10 PM PDT by Mark17 (The love of God, how rich and pure, how measureless and strong. It shall forevermore endure.)
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To: cloudmountain; Salvation; JesusIsLord

Live source, please. Always a live source is needed. (per FR posting police, salvation) ;o)


159 posted on 07/26/2016 7:14:45 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

Bwahahaha ... good one!


160 posted on 07/26/2016 7:23:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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