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Joe Heschmeyer is a seminarian for the Catholic diocese of Kansas City, Kansas. He offers advice for Catholics regarding the November election.
1 posted on 07/22/2016 1:32:34 PM PDT by rwa265
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I stopped reading at waterboarding. I'm an old school Catholic of the Church Militant variety. My hero (check out my tagline) was a pious Catholic who had no truck with muzzies. Perhaps in light of Munich, this piece may be ironic.
2 posted on 07/22/2016 1:35:54 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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It’s election season, and I’ve hesitated to say much on the subject for many reasons.
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Why didn’t you LISTEN TO YOUR INNER VOICE? Hesitation means something.


3 posted on 07/22/2016 1:35:56 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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Horse manure. I stopped reading at “Your salvation could well hang in the balance” depending on who you vote for. I’d like to see the scripture to back that bogus statement up.


4 posted on 07/22/2016 1:37:01 PM PDT by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)
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Joe Hecshmeyer needs to mind his own business...and it’s not telling me who not to vote for!! GO STUDY, JOEY! JESUS ISN”T RUNNING!!


5 posted on 07/22/2016 1:37:03 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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No my one vote won't decide the outcome But if this argument dissuaded enough people from voting AGAINST the greater evil, it will result in the victory of the greater evil
8 posted on 07/22/2016 1:44:38 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (,)
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Oh my Lord....he is channeling the Mormon Glen Beck

ANYONE who thinks we can survive as a nation with eight more years of Obama’s policies is certifiable. IF Hillary gets in she will appoint more justices than can ever be overcome. The second amendment will be gone....and most of what’s left of the constitution. Single payer health care. Higher taxes. The draft returned.

We will indeed look like Venezuela .


9 posted on 07/22/2016 1:45:03 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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This is a stupid and immoral article.

The author picks a few isolated quotes from Trump about stopping terrorism and genocide. He implies that standing by passively and allowing genocide, mass torture and murder is morally superior to trying to end it.

That is an immoral and evil position.

It is our duty to prevent evil not to sit back and allow it to continue.

Unless this author grows up and learns about right and wrong and the duty to protect the innocent from murder and torture he should not become a priest. In fact, he should not hold any responsible, decision making position.


11 posted on 07/22/2016 1:46:08 PM PDT by detective
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The idea that you need to vote for a bad candidate or else the even-worse-one will win has always been false.

In a sinful world, "bad" is always better than "worse," because, as Jesus Himself put it, there is no one good except God (Mark 10:18). Always outside of the church, and all too often inside of it as well, our choices are between "bad" and "worse." In fact, the major sin of liberalism is that it is convinced that it and it alone can form and foster the perfect world and perfect people to inhabit it--all it has to do is force everyone to conform, and kill all those who don't.

I will vote for Jehu (Trump), not expecting saintly perfection, because the alternative of Jezebel (Hillary) is evil. And since God chose Jehu over Jezebel, I am figuring that is His thinking as well.

13 posted on 07/22/2016 1:47:28 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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Not only sophistry, but boring and interminable sophistry.


15 posted on 07/22/2016 1:49:39 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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One of those reasons is because our obsession with politics is unhealthy and unholy. Another is that this election season has been like watching a slow-burning dumpster fire.

Nobody would accuse Catholics of being obsessed with politics. Most of them skipped voting in the presidential primaries.

1. Filling out your ballot is a duty. “Piety in place of duty isn’t piety at all.”
Catholic Catechism: 2240 Submission to authority and co-responsibility for the common good make it morally obligatory to pay taxes, to exercise the right to vote, and to defend one’s country:
“[Christians] reside in their own nations, but as resident aliens. They participate in all things as citizens and endure all things as foreigners. . . . They obey the established laws and their way of life surpasses the laws. . . . So noble is the position to which God has assigned them that they are not allowed to desert it.”
16 posted on 07/22/2016 1:50:38 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (moving out of CT in a few years)
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Hillary is despicably evil in Catholic terms, especially in her support for unlimited abortion.

Trump is at worst questionable. We don’t know what he might do on some issues. But he certainly is not basically evil, like the Hildabeast.

Waterboarding is not fun, but it can be argued that it is permissible in Catholic circles. It is NOT torture. And it can be used to prevent more killings of innocent people.


21 posted on 07/22/2016 2:02:24 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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That’s just really... awful. And the following comments are not necessarily directed at you.

Don’t vote for Trump if you don’t want to, but who on earth knows the condition of Donald’s soul or why he’s where he is?

Maybe God put him right where he is for His own glory.

Sorry, this is how our system works. Trump is not that egregious. Cruzbots trying to make excuses for their lameness. and pull others along with them. Or maybe the GOPe stirring the pot trying to prevent a landslide. God knows they have more to lose if Trump wins.

Cruz ran an awful campaign. Jumped on Beck’s Crazy Train. Was knocked out by a few jabs from Donald.

Ted proved he would NEVER stand a chance against Cankles, et al. His performance against Donald showed his thin-skinned weaknesses.

I donated sacrificially to Ted. It hurt but I believed in him. Then he turned into a whiny baby loser. I want a refund.

You want another petulant man-child in office or a fighter?

Don’t want to vote for Donald because your soul is so frigging pure? Then don’t. But enough already! All you’re doing is creating more venom against St Ted and destroying any chance he has in any office.


22 posted on 07/22/2016 2:02:37 PM PDT by CaptainPhilFan (islam is the worship of Satan)
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He has no bearing on my vote and has no basis or standing to give it....
Plain and simple..... Trump is anti-abortion.... Clinton is militantly pro-abortion.....
This is the base issue that all Catholics should measure a candidate, if they want to make a decision based on religion.....
BTW, I’m Catholic...


23 posted on 07/22/2016 2:02:54 PM PDT by nevergore
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Catholics DO NOT often have difficulty choosing who to vote for: they either vote for a pro-life candidate or they don’t.Everything else is secondary.


24 posted on 07/22/2016 2:06:29 PM PDT by Doche2X2
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Trying to equate water boarding a known terrorist with killing millions of unborn babies, or even one, is a sickening attempt to okay voting for an evil woman. The same thing happened when pro-life Bush ran against pro-abortion Kerry. It didn’t work then and hopefully won’t work now.


25 posted on 07/22/2016 2:06:41 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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Great line in the combox at the link

"We currently have 5 Catholics on the court and it hasn’t changed much of anything."

26 posted on 07/22/2016 2:09:22 PM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon
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Is it possible for someone to be so above the world that they're of no worldly value to those of us who still have to live here in this biblical valley of death?

I am trying to be an observer of the world without getting too much of it on me, often unsuccessfully, but I have read and noticed how the Lord commonly chooses the most unlikely, in our eyes, to reveal and do His Will on behalf of the rest.

Also, judging, whatever it is, is a bad idea and so is assuming that one's own understanding of things is the correct understanding.

Whether correct or otherwise, I do appreciate his level of understanding and will give it some thought.

Thanks for posting!

27 posted on 07/22/2016 2:17:18 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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Catholic “church” has gone full libtard.


28 posted on 07/22/2016 2:22:38 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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What garbage. Any faithful Catholic who does not support Trump has cast his or her lot with the demonic left which works toward the demise of Christian civilization. And I say this as a devout Roman Catholic who frequently partakes of the sacraments and has a master’s in Thomistic theology from a top Catholic ecclesiastical school (among other degrees).


29 posted on 07/22/2016 2:25:30 PM PDT by AC Beach Patrol
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This Catholic Squishiness is starting to get to me.. so much in fact, I posted a reply at the website.

Between Public Schools, and Some of Our Catholic Ones..anyone remember “growing in love” in Catholic Schools back in the nineties?

There is rot found in Our Seminaries, in Parishes, with Our Bishops, with the Vicar of Christ. I am sick to death of it, and btw, will happily vote for Donald Trump and Mike Pence in November.


37 posted on 07/22/2016 3:42:36 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Donald Trump will ban auto-correct with an Executive Order. Go Trump!)
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