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Pope Francis says most marriages today are ‘invalid’. This is a disaster for the Catholic Church
The Spectator ^
| June 17, 2016
| Damian Thompson
Posted on 06/16/2016 9:22:17 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: metmom
He did it WITHOUT sex, so there is no sexual sin.And yet...
Luke 2:22-24
When the time came for the purification rites required by the Law of Moses, Joseph and Mary took him to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord (as it is written in the Law of the Lord, Every firstborn male is to be consecrated to the Lord), and to offer a sacrifice in keeping with what is said in the Law of the Lord: a pair of doves or two young pigeons.
Leviticus 12:7-8
Then he shall offer it before the LORD and make atonement for her, and she shall be cleansed from the flow of her blood. This is the law for her who bears a child, whether a male or a female. 'But if she cannot afford a lamb, then she shall take two turtledoves or two young pigeons, the one for a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering; and the priest shall make atonement for her, and she will be clean.'"
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posted on
06/22/2016 7:55:40 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Mrs. Don-o
...the vowed sexual exclusivity of marriage ...Move along; Joseph and Mary. This does not apply to you.
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posted on
06/22/2016 7:57:22 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Mrs. Don-o
You ignore the third possibility again: that she was a consecrated woman.Just exactly how does a consecrated woman function?
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posted on
06/22/2016 7:59:16 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: ebb tide
Shameful. Having premarital sex and getting pregnant before marriage. Dont ask me to pat you or your husband on the back.
Right on!!!
DAMNED sinners!!!
We; here at Westboro; have your back!!!
404
posted on
06/22/2016 8:02:15 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: ebb tide
Hes fond of feces also.How would YOU know THIS?
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posted on
06/22/2016 8:03:22 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: ebb tide
I see you have joined the pervert of Rome's fecal focus club. HMMMmmm...
Now that you mention it...
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posted on
06/22/2016 8:04:32 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: ebb tide
http://freerepublic.com/~ebbtide/ Luke 20:46
For they like to parade around in flowing robes and love to receive respectful greetings as they walk in the marketplaces
407
posted on
06/22/2016 8:07:27 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Elsie
So, you’re a member also?
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posted on
06/22/2016 8:52:27 AM PDT
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: Elsie
Apparently not. God asserted a prior claim.
409
posted on
06/22/2016 9:00:32 AM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
(The harmony between thought and reality is found in the grammar of the language. Ludwig Wittgenstein)
To: imardmd1
Those formulating the doctrine of Mary's Immaculate Conception simply had no idea of the discoveries of cell theory, nor genetics, nor of cloning, etc. that is fairly common and no longer imaginative but real. I had no idea that cell theory, genetics, etc. could determine a persons spiritual state!
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posted on
06/22/2016 10:01:24 AM PDT
by
maryz
To: metmom
That doctrine does create a bit if a tar baby.
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posted on
06/22/2016 10:04:11 AM PDT
by
Gamecock
( Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul...Matthew 10:28)
To: imardmd1
Therefore, Mary is the surrogate mother of the man part of the God-man Jesus but not the mother of the God part of the God-man Jesus. Slipping in a conclusion as a premise isn't normally allowed in logic. You've demonstrated nothing -- except perhaps that you deny that Christ had any human ancestors, that He is not of the seed of Abraham, the seed of Isaac, the seed of Jacob, and certainly not of the royal line of David, and not even Jewish, since Jewishness comes through the mother. Your "argument" seems to imply that He's not even human -- more a fabricated simulacrum cunningly devised to appear humanm.
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posted on
06/22/2016 10:08:39 AM PDT
by
maryz
To: maryz
Strange that you do not apply this same ‘rigor of thought’ to Mrs Don-o as she makes up an entire fable to support the specious notion that GOD must use a sex cell from Mary to create the body for Jesus. Your blind catholic bias is showing, big time.
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posted on
06/22/2016 10:15:11 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
To: maryz
You spittled out, "Your "argument" seems to imply that He's not even human -- more a fabricated simulacrum cunningly devised to appear humanm." No, that is not what the clear thinking of the post is stating, but catholic blindness makes it impossible to see the post any other way, apparently. Would you like top prove to us that GOD had to use a sex cell from MAry? That has with it the corollary of where did the male sex call come from, if you're true to logical argument.
Why do you catholic defenders of the fables on Mary insist on pushing against a srawman like 'Your "argument" seems to imply that He's not even human' ... apparently the catholiciism way or the highway, not even giving GOD enough credit to do what He chooses without first having Vatican approval! [See how easy it is to get in the catholic fantasy / strawman fabrication rut?]
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posted on
06/22/2016 10:21:27 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
To: MHGinTN
You mean the “specious notion” accepted by all of Christendom for 2,000 years? That one?
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posted on
06/22/2016 10:22:05 AM PDT
by
maryz
To: maryz
And you talk about ‘cunningly devised fables’! LOL you reklated to terycarl, the pope’s mentor?
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posted on
06/22/2016 10:23:53 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
To: MHGinTN
No, that is not what the clear thinking of the post is stating, The poster claims that Christ got no genetic material from Mary. Therefore, no human genetic material.
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posted on
06/22/2016 10:26:43 AM PDT
by
maryz
To: maryz
So you declare GOD incapable of producing a body for The Son without using Mary’s sex cell. Typical arrogance of catholiciism ... typical catholic blindness.
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posted on
06/22/2016 11:10:11 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
To: maryz
Your religion has been trying to change the Truth to fit your religion's myth and fables, like the change your religion made to Genesis 3:15 15I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed:
she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.
And that is but one passage where scripture has been altered by your religion, to fit the deception over the Mary of catholiciism. Keep trying, catholics, maybe you can make the goddess-hood of Mary real in your religion, without having to deny it at every turn as you bow to statues of Mary and send biullions of prayers to her for answering and rely on her to keep your souls out of the mythical purgatory your religion has fabricated out of whole cloth.
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posted on
06/22/2016 11:22:23 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
To: maryz
That passage from Genesis was out of the catholic Bible, the Douay-Rheims is this sort of deception by changing the meaning of Bible passages why some catholics raise tradition over the authority of God’s Word?
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posted on
06/22/2016 11:24:17 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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