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Pope Francis: ‘Rigid… this or nothing’ Catholics are ‘heretical’ and ‘not Catholic’
Life Site News ^ | June 9, 2016 | John-Westen

Posted on 06/09/2016 3:59:37 PM PDT by ebb tide

The stunning introduction to today’s official Vatican Radio report on Pope Francis’ morning homily reads: “Pope Francis warned on Thursday against an excessive rigidity, saying those within the Church who tell us ‘it’s this or nothing’ are heretics and not Catholics. His remarks came during the morning Mass on Thursday celebrated at the Santa Marta residence.”

The specific section of the homily referred to in the opening is as follows:

This (is the) healthy realism of the Catholic Church: the Church never teaches us ‘or this or that.’ That is not Catholic. The Church says to us: ‘this and that.’ ‘Strive for perfectionism: reconcile with your brother. Do not insult him. Love him. And if there is a problem, at the very least settle your differences so that war doesn’t break out.’ This (is) the healthy realism of Catholicism. It is not Catholic (to say) ‘or this or nothing:’ This is not Catholic, this is heretical.

Jesus always knows how to accompany us, he gives us the ideal, he accompanies us towards the ideal, He frees us from the chains of the laws' rigidity and tells us: ‘But do that up to the point that you are capable.’ And he understands us very well. He is our Lord and this is what he teaches us.

Interpreting what Pope Francis is saying in a precise way has always been difficult. However, there has been a consistent theme in his remarks against what he refers to as ‘rigid’ Catholics who hold steadfastly to the ideals proposed by Christ and to absolutes. “Fundamentalism is a sickness that we find in all religions,” said the Pope in November while flying home from Africa. “Among Catholics there are many, not a few, many, who believe to hold the absolute truth,” he added. “They go ahead by harming others with slander and defamation, and they do great harm… And it must be combated.”

In his most recent Apostolic Exhortation Amoris Laetitia, Pope Francis criticized the Church for often proposing, “a far too abstract and almost artificial theological ideal of marriage.” He added that conscience can “recognize with sincerity and honesty what for now is the most generous response which can be given to God, and come to see with a certain moral security that it is what God himself is asking amid the concrete complexity of one’s limits, while yet not fully the objective ideal.”

An accusation of rigidity or heresy by Pope Francis against those who would insist on the ideal of Christ’s teaching such as marriage, would fall heavily on Francis’ own predecessor, Pope St. John Paul II, whom Pope Francis himself declared a saint. In the encyclical Veritatis Splendor, John Paul taught: "It would be a very serious error to conclude... that the Church's teaching is essentially only an 'ideal' which must then be adapted, proportioned, graduated to the so-called concrete possibilities of man, according to a 'balancing of the goods in question'.”

The same condemnation of heresy against “this or nothing” Catholics would seem to target the author of God or Nothing, Cardinal Robert Sarah, who Pope Francis appointed to head the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments. In God or Nothing, Cardinal Sarah forcefully rejected the notion of watering down the teaching on the indissolubility of marriage with pastoral leniency. “The idea of putting magisterial teaching in a beautiful display case while separating it from pastoral practice, which then could evolve along with circumstances, fashions, and passions, is a sort of heresy, a dangerous schizophrenic pathology,” he wrote.

Cardinal Sarah also issued a warning to prelates who would seek to alter doctrine by altering the practice of the Church regarding marriage. “Men who devise and elaborate strategies to kill God, to destroy the centuries-old doctrine and teaching of the Church, will themselves be swallowed up, carried off by their own earthly victory into the eternal fires of Gehenna,” he said.

Pope Francis says that Christ “tells us: ‘But do that up to the point that you are capable.’” The Bible however, records our Lord’s words differently in the Gospel of Matthew concluding the 5th chapter where He teaches the hard truths about divorce and adultery. “Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect,” said Jesus.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: adultery; francischurch; heresy; mortalsin
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To: huckfillary

No mere Pope is going to make me give up the sacraments.


21 posted on 06/09/2016 4:45:00 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
It’s been clear for years that he cannot get enough of sodomites, trannies, etc. I think we will learn shortly after his death why he has this fascination with unchaste perverts.

+1

His glib and gross commentary regarding coprophagia/coprophilia offered a major clue.

22 posted on 06/09/2016 4:53:45 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: ebb tide

At a minimum, Francis is simply a bad communicator, and therefore a bad evangelist, and a bad leader. So, take care with every single thing he says.


23 posted on 06/09/2016 5:00:20 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: ebb tide; All
‘Strive for perfectionism: reconcile with your brother. Do not insult him. Love him. And if there is a problem, at the very least settle your differences so that war doesn’t break out.’

This is a distortion of Jesus’ teaching of Matthew 18:15-17 imo.

While I don’t promote war, this miguided pope is arguably promoting the Stockholm syndrome imo.

24 posted on 06/09/2016 5:05:05 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: ReaganGeneration2
"At a minimum, Francis is simply a bad communicator, and therefore a bad evangelist, and a bad leader."

He could reference Bible passages, but he doesn't do that too much, if at all.

25 posted on 06/09/2016 5:15:45 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: BlessedBeGod
So, The 10 Commandments are now The 10 Ideals?

Obviously, you did not get the memo. Decades ago, Liberal Protestantism changed them to the "Ten Suggestions".

The Secular Left has dubbed them the "Ten Oppressions".

/s

26 posted on 06/09/2016 5:16:56 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: ebb tide

I guess those Catholics shouldn’t be so rigid about abortion either. Yeah Ok.


27 posted on 06/09/2016 5:23:26 PM PDT by Engedi
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To: BlessedBeGod

The 10 Suggestions.


28 posted on 06/09/2016 5:27:00 PM PDT by Seruzawa (All those memories will be lost, like tears in rain.)
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To: ebb tide

29 posted on 06/09/2016 5:41:43 PM PDT by SGNA
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To: cloudmountain

Are you a born again Christian....do you know what that means....?

Do you believe the bible?

If you did you would understand why this POPE is Dangerous to all faiths.


30 posted on 06/09/2016 5:41:46 PM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Arthur McGowan

That’s true, and I was disappointed when Ratzinger/Benedict stepped down. The replacement you got is a disaster.


31 posted on 06/09/2016 5:57:13 PM PDT by Pelham (Barack Obama. When being bad is not enough and only evil will do)
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To: Arthur McGowan

He’s not stupid. Anybody who is successful in rigging a papal election in his favor and succeeding, in convincing the entire world that he’s their super-hero and hoodwinking the majority of Catholic’s with his new false-mercy religion is not stupid. He’s evil.


32 posted on 06/09/2016 6:00:38 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

This or nothing eh?

So will he finally take all the anathemas down from the Council of Trent?

What hypocrisy.

Not that he is any better on any other topic he talks about.


33 posted on 06/09/2016 6:02:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Peter ODonnell

The 10 Suggestions


34 posted on 06/09/2016 6:03:10 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ebb tide
reconcile with your brother. Do not insult him

Unless it's to call him a heretic.

35 posted on 06/09/2016 6:10:49 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity?)
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To: ebb tide

This guy is getting on my nerves.


36 posted on 06/09/2016 6:13:01 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity?)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Papa Tango discouraged the Protestant “bishop” Tony Palmer from pursuing his intentions to convert to Catholicism. That’s how Francis treats his closest brothers.

How do you think he treats his more distant brothers, traditional Catholics?


37 posted on 06/09/2016 6:15:28 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: huckfillary

Our Lord did not hang on the Cross for three hours so you could quit and save your money when times get tough. One day you will have to explain to Him your decision. Pray and wait for the next guy. “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of everlasting life”.


38 posted on 06/09/2016 6:40:01 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: cloudmountain

Why should protestator like myself care about the Catholic Church? Catholicism is numerically the largest component of Christendom and despite our significant theological differences, protestants should appreciate the Catholic Church’s historical commitment to issues such as life, family and marriage. Protestants should weep at the liberal turn it has taken. No schadenfreude here.


39 posted on 06/09/2016 7:07:33 PM PDT by armydoc
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To: BlatherNaut

I knew the meaning of the words, but I have lived 62 years without using either one, not even once. I suspect he is the first Pope EVER to use them.


40 posted on 06/09/2016 7:36:03 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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