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Pope Francis: ‘Rigid… this or nothing’ Catholics are ‘heretical’ and ‘not Catholic’
Life Site News ^ | June 9, 2016 | John-Westen

Posted on 06/09/2016 3:59:37 PM PDT by ebb tide

The stunning introduction to today’s official Vatican Radio report on Pope Francis’ morning homily reads: “Pope Francis warned on Thursday against an excessive rigidity, saying those within the Church who tell us ‘it’s this or nothing’ are heretics and not Catholics. His remarks came during the morning Mass on Thursday celebrated at the Santa Marta residence.”

The specific section of the homily referred to in the opening is as follows:

This (is the) healthy realism of the Catholic Church: the Church never teaches us ‘or this or that.’ That is not Catholic. The Church says to us: ‘this and that.’ ‘Strive for perfectionism: reconcile with your brother. Do not insult him. Love him. And if there is a problem, at the very least settle your differences so that war doesn’t break out.’ This (is) the healthy realism of Catholicism. It is not Catholic (to say) ‘or this or nothing:’ This is not Catholic, this is heretical.

Jesus always knows how to accompany us, he gives us the ideal, he accompanies us towards the ideal, He frees us from the chains of the laws' rigidity and tells us: ‘But do that up to the point that you are capable.’ And he understands us very well. He is our Lord and this is what he teaches us.

Interpreting what Pope Francis is saying in a precise way has always been difficult. However, there has been a consistent theme in his remarks against what he refers to as ‘rigid’ Catholics who hold steadfastly to the ideals proposed by Christ and to absolutes. “Fundamentalism is a sickness that we find in all religions,” said the Pope in November while flying home from Africa. “Among Catholics there are many, not a few, many, who believe to hold the absolute truth,” he added. “They go ahead by harming others with slander and defamation, and they do great harm… And it must be combated.”

In his most recent Apostolic Exhortation Amoris Laetitia, Pope Francis criticized the Church for often proposing, “a far too abstract and almost artificial theological ideal of marriage.” He added that conscience can “recognize with sincerity and honesty what for now is the most generous response which can be given to God, and come to see with a certain moral security that it is what God himself is asking amid the concrete complexity of one’s limits, while yet not fully the objective ideal.”

An accusation of rigidity or heresy by Pope Francis against those who would insist on the ideal of Christ’s teaching such as marriage, would fall heavily on Francis’ own predecessor, Pope St. John Paul II, whom Pope Francis himself declared a saint. In the encyclical Veritatis Splendor, John Paul taught: "It would be a very serious error to conclude... that the Church's teaching is essentially only an 'ideal' which must then be adapted, proportioned, graduated to the so-called concrete possibilities of man, according to a 'balancing of the goods in question'.”

The same condemnation of heresy against “this or nothing” Catholics would seem to target the author of God or Nothing, Cardinal Robert Sarah, who Pope Francis appointed to head the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments. In God or Nothing, Cardinal Sarah forcefully rejected the notion of watering down the teaching on the indissolubility of marriage with pastoral leniency. “The idea of putting magisterial teaching in a beautiful display case while separating it from pastoral practice, which then could evolve along with circumstances, fashions, and passions, is a sort of heresy, a dangerous schizophrenic pathology,” he wrote.

Cardinal Sarah also issued a warning to prelates who would seek to alter doctrine by altering the practice of the Church regarding marriage. “Men who devise and elaborate strategies to kill God, to destroy the centuries-old doctrine and teaching of the Church, will themselves be swallowed up, carried off by their own earthly victory into the eternal fires of Gehenna,” he said.

Pope Francis says that Christ “tells us: ‘But do that up to the point that you are capable.’” The Bible however, records our Lord’s words differently in the Gospel of Matthew concluding the 5th chapter where He teaches the hard truths about divorce and adultery. “Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect,” said Jesus.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: adultery; francischurch; heresy; mortalsin
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To Francis, rigidity to Catholic idealism, e.g. the indissolubility of marriage until "death do us part", must now be replaced by a new false "mercy" towards adulterers who co-habitate or have divorced and remarried. Or even Lutherans in mixed marriages with Catholics: let's give Holy Communion to them, also.
1 posted on 06/09/2016 3:59:37 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Oh Boy, this is new world order off-the-cuff doctrine at its finest.


2 posted on 06/09/2016 4:01:03 PM PDT by x_plus_one (Christ is King, Cruz is not.)
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To: ebb tide

Is Benedict rested up yet?


3 posted on 06/09/2016 4:01:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: ebb tide
"Catholics are ‘heretical’ and ‘not Catholic’"

He's projecting.

4 posted on 06/09/2016 4:02:23 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: ebb tide

What exactly does he consider “Rigid”?


5 posted on 06/09/2016 4:03:14 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ebb tide

So, The 10 Commandments are now The 10 Ideals?

Thank goodness for Pope Francis. I was a little bit worried there.


6 posted on 06/09/2016 4:05:15 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ====Appeasing evil is cowardice.)
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To: x_plus_one

As a Protestant, I am beginning to wonder if the Pope really is Catholic.


7 posted on 06/09/2016 4:05:40 PM PDT by WilliamCooper1
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To: ebb tide

Don’t complain, vote with your feet. After straddling the fence for years, Dope Francis made leaving the Church so easy and guilt free. And I have more money in my pocket.


8 posted on 06/09/2016 4:06:37 PM PDT by huckfillary
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To: huckfillary

I’m not leaving.

This too shall pass.


9 posted on 06/09/2016 4:11:00 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: All

The Ten Vague Guidelines

1. Whatever.

2. You know, yada yada.

3. Be a bit careful on this one, especially you know.

4. Give money to the church.

5. Umm, get back to me on this one.

6. Don’t tell too many people.

7. If you gotta, you gotta.

8. Man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do.

9. Yeah, that one.

10. There has to be ten?


10 posted on 06/09/2016 4:12:51 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (Bernie Sanders Liquidation Sale -- 75% Off Peace Signs, Free Che poster with every purchase)
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To: DuncanWaring

It won’t exactly pass - it will schism. I’m going to be on the side of 2,000 years of Catholic Church, not Francis’ side.


11 posted on 06/09/2016 4:12:53 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86

Perfect.


12 posted on 06/09/2016 4:24:10 PM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: ebb tide

Oh my, have we finally found out, the Pope is not Catholic?


13 posted on 06/09/2016 4:26:06 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: x_plus_one
Oh Boy, this is new world order off-the-cuff doctrine at its finest.

*Of course, the off-the-cuff doctrine MIGHT be the media interpretation of what the Pope says.

**We know how the media LOVE the Catholic Church.

***We know how FAITHFULLY the media try to be clear about what the Pope said.

****Next the media will turn to Hollyweird for THEIR opinions. That should be fun. THEY love the strictures that the Christian faith imposes on folks...who just want to have a good time.

*****We ALWAYS learn ALL the good stuff that the Pope does, as well, with EQUAL vigor in reporting! [Free showers and barbers in the Vatican, for example]

Oh well.

14 posted on 06/09/2016 4:27:03 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: MHGinTN
Why would ANY non-Catholic give a rat's patootie about the Pope? I don't get it.

Popes have NOTHING to do with Protestants, so why get one's shorts in a bunch about a man who lives 10,000 miles away within Italy? He had NOTHING to do with anything non-Catholic, Hindu or Muslim, so why bother?

Just curious about all the angst and anger.

15 posted on 06/09/2016 4:31:07 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

Gee, you not been paying attention to this guy’s rhetoric? He is ecumenism on steroids. Do you know what that word means, ecumenism?


16 posted on 06/09/2016 4:33:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: ebb tide

He gets stupider and stupider. Or, more and more out-of-the-closet. It’s been clear for years that he cannot get enough of sodomites, trannies, etc. I think we will learn shortly after his death why he has this fascination with unchaste perverts.

Intellectually, totally unqualified to be a bishop, let alone Pope. He’s a nasty, vindictive man. Everything he has said or done should be repudiated by the next Pope.


17 posted on 06/09/2016 4:33:15 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: WilliamCooper1

The old rhetorical question “Is the Pope Catholic?” will have to be retired.


18 posted on 06/09/2016 4:37:16 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: ebb tide

Jesus was very rigid.
Always “go and sin no more” this and “go and sin no more that.”


19 posted on 06/09/2016 4:40:59 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: cloudmountain

Millions of non-Catholics look to the Catholic Church for a certain clarity and stability, even though they do not adhere to the Church with an act of faith. When there is a bad Pope—and this one is, in some respects, the worst Pope of all time—they miss that clarity and stability they are used to.


20 posted on 06/09/2016 4:43:47 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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