Posted on 05/25/2016 3:57:03 AM PDT by JosephJames
God didn’t seem that patient in Noah’s time.
Has God changed?
Au contraire!
Genesis 6:3
Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”
If ya ain't gonna listen to God's Spirit in 120 years; it appears you ain't Never gonna!
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He has to be in union with all the bishops and has to proclaim a truth believed from the beginning by the faithful. He is not free to proclaim “ex cathedra” whatever pops into his head that will sound nice.
That's what I've always thought; too.
I wonder...
Could there be a yet unfound FOURTH letter from John; telling of all the wondrous things that Mary had been doing for the Kingdom while she lived with him?
darn you! and darn your keyboard. You just had to do that didn't you? (shakes head).
Not fair, I asked first.
And you don’t see that coming?
I always wondered, too, about the fact that Jesus personally taught the Apostles for 40 days between His Resurrection and His Ascension, and none of it is recorded.
Maybe that is why the Scriptures command us to cling not only to the written words, but to the Tradition --- what was handed down via the Apostles' disciples, whether by word or by example.
One chain of transmission:
John --> Polycarp of Smyna--> Irenaeus of Lyon.
We know the content of this Oral Tradition because within a generation or two it was written: we have the writings of the men the Apostles taught, and we know of the practice of their churches: their liturgy and so forth.
Hence the Church's axiom ,"Lex orandi, lex credendi." The way they prayed is what they believed.
I would say symbolically (and Revelation is full of symbolism) that the woman represents a church. A pure woman is a pure church and a harlot is an impure church.
6. In addition, [by this Our Constitution, which is to remain valid in perpetuity We enact, determine, decree and define:-]
that if ever at any time it shall appear that any Bishop, even if he be acting as an Archbishop, Patriarch or Primate; or any Cardinal of the aforesaid Roman Church, or, as has already been mentioned, any legate, or even the Roman Pontiff, prior to his promotion or his elevation as Cardinal or Roman Pontiff, has deviated from the Catholic Faith or fallen into some heresy:
(i) the promotion or elevation, even if it shall have been uncontested and by the unanimous assent of all the Cardinals, shall be null, void and worthless;
(ii) it shall not be possible for it to acquire validity (nor for it to be said that it has thus acquired validity) through the acceptance of the office, of consecration, of subsequent authority, nor through possession of administration, nor through the putative enthronement of a Roman Pontiff, or Veneration, or obedience accorded to such by all, nor through the lapse of any period of time in the foregoing situation;
(iii) it shall not be held as partially legitimate in any way;
(iv) to any so promoted to be Bishops, or Archbishops, or Patriarchs, or Primates or elevated as Cardinals, or as Roman Pontiff, no authority shall have been granted, nor shall it be considered to have been so granted either in the spiritual or the temporal domain;
(v) each and all of their words, deeds, actions and enactments, howsoever made, and anything whatsoever to which these may give rise, shall be without force and shall grant no stability whatsoever nor any right to anyone;
(vi) those thus promoted or elevated shall be deprived automatically, and without need for any further declaration, of all dignity, position, honour, title, authority, office and power.
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St Robert Bellarmine, Doctor of the Church, "De Romano Pontifice", ("On the Roman Pontiff"), liber II, caput 30:
"For, in the first place, it is proven with arguments from authority and from reason that the manifest heretic is "ipso facto" deposed. The argument from authority is based on St. Paul (Titus, c. 3), who orders that the heretic be avoided after two warnings, that is, after showing himself to be manifestly obstinate - which means before any excommunication or judicial sentence. And this is what St. Jerome writes, adding that the other sinners are excluded from the Church by sentence of excommunication, but the heretics exile themselves and separate themselves by their own act from the body of Christ. Now, a Pope who remains Pope cannot be avoided, for how could we be required to avoid our own head? How can we separate ourselves from a member united to us?
"This principle is most certain. The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope, as Cajetan himself admits (ib. c. 26). The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member; now he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian (lib. 4, epist. 2), St. Athanasius (Scr. 2 cont. Arian.), St. Augustine (lib. de great. Christ. cap. 20), St. Jerome (contra Lucifer.) and others; therefore the manifest heretic cannot be Pope.
Est ergo quinta opinio vera, papam haereticum manifestum per se desinere esse papam et caput, sicut per se desinit esse christianus et membrum corporis Ecclesiae; quare ab, Ecclesia posse eum judicari et puniri. Haec est sententia omnium veterum Patrum, qui docent, haereticos manifestos mox amittere omnem jurisdictionem.
"Therefore, the true opinion is the fifth, according to which the Pope who is manifestly a heretic ceases by himself to be Pope and head, in the same way as he ceases to be a Christian and a member of the body of the Church; and for this reason he can be judged and punished by the Church. This is the opinion of all the ancient Fathers, who teach that manifest heretics immediately lose all jurisdiction,
Fundamentum hujus sententiae est. quoniam haereticus manifestos nullo modo est membrum Ecclesiae, idest, neque animo neque corpore, sive neque unione interna, neque externa.
"The foundation of this argument is that the manifest heretic is not in any way a member of the Church, that is, neither spiritually nor corporally, which signifies that he is not such by internal union nor by external union.
I agree. As the author wrote in the article: “I must admit that I am not a professional writer. I received my BA degree in mathematics and science from UCLA in 1974, not in English nor in History nor in other liberal arts (not that these disciplines are bad in themselves). I was ordained a priest in Italy on August 31, 1996. But at least in the 60’s and 70’s and 80’s there was much less influence of the secular humanists (who have undermined reason and logic) in the mathematics department; two plus two are still four! Virtue is still virtue, sin is still sin, heaven and hell still exist according to the Creator of the universe even though these culture destroyers have convinced us otherwise!”
I am sure the author would not mind if someone would break it up in 5 pieces as you said. The only thing that matters is to help souls find the Truth Who is Jesus (Jn 14:6)!
“Satan disguises himself as an angel of light” (2Cor 11:14)!
This will be the greatest deception in the history of the world and the Church. We are truly the generation of which Christ spoke about in Matthew chapter 24. One has to pray much, especially before the infinite God in the Eucharist, but with the help of the Mother of God to adore God with true humility and trust. But also one must struggle to seek the Truth even amidst much confusion in the Catholic Church as never before.
OUR LADY AT AKITA, JAPAN said (October 13, 1973: the anniversary of the great miracle of the sun on October 13, 1917 at Fatima, Portugal; Also the same date (October 13 – 1884) of the diabolical vision of Pope Leo XIII which motivated him to compose “The Prayer To Saint Michael The Archangel” and to print it and send it to all the bishops of the world): “As I told you, if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never have seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms that will remain for you will be the Rosary and Sign left by My Son. Each day recite the prayers of the Rosary. WITH THE ROSARY, PRAY FOR THE POPE, THE BISHOPS, AND THE PRIESTS. The work of the devil will infiltrate even the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against other bishops. The priests who venerate Me will be scorned and opposed by their conferees… churches and altars sacked, the Church will be full of those who accept compromise …”
I agree. But due to our sins and rejection and rebellion against God’s holy laws, especially Humanae Vitae and humility before the Eucharist, explained by the Catholic Church we deserve what is happening, as St. Francis fortold:
“Prophecy of Saint Francis” (http://spir-food.blogspot.it/2013/11/prophecy-st-francis.html):
2. The power of the demons will be greater than usual, the immaculate purity of our religious community and of others, will withered to the point that very few Christians will want to obey the true Sovereign Pontiff and the Roman Church with a sincere heart and perfect charity. At the decisive moment of this crisis, a personage not canonically elected, raised to the Pontificate, will endeavor to administer shrewdly to many the mortal poison of his error.
7. Some preachers will keep silent about the truth and, denying the truth, they will trample upon the truth. The sanctity of life will be held in derision by those who only profess it outwardly, and for this reason Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a worthy Pastor, but a destroyer.”
“When God wants to chastise humanity, He does not give to the Church the Pope of which it needs, but leaves to the Church the Pope that it merits” (Archbishop Fulton Sheen).
The give-away is the line that says (5) "She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and his throne." That is very clearly Jesus Christ, because the Messiah is foretold in Psalms 2:9 as ruling the nations with an iron rod.
So clearly, Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ. And she is also, very significantly, a figure of the Church.
I am sure this person is a nice fellow but obviously he has not been gifted with writing abilities. You have done him no favor by posting this.
The only thing that matters is to help souls find the Truth
Then I would direct them to the source of truth which is the Bible rather than this poor mans efforts to say . . . . something.
Peace be to you.
Nations, races and cultures are said to have figuratively given birth to a prominent figure. I would say overall the emphasis here is on Israel instead of Mary.
That is very clearly Jesus Christ, because the Messiah is foretold in Psalms 2:9 as ruling the nations with an iron rod.
Agreed.
So clearly, Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ.
Agreed
And she is also, very significantly, a figure of the Church.
I would leave out very significantly. The focus should always be on Jesus and not the supporting cast even though they were necessary and helped. Their roles are always ancillary with God doing the judging or handing out merit badges. He's better at it.
Of course these are my opinions and YMMV.
I’m ALWAYS late to these things!
I know you Catholics are TAUGHT this; but it sure would be a bit easier to swallow if something; just ANYTHING had been written about Mary after John took her in; other than this stretch of the Word by Rome.
My 'guess' is that what He said before was being REPEATED, over and over; trying to get it to STICK!
John records the POOR performance of Catholic churches in Asia.
Why couldn't MARY have told John to warn them instead of an angel?
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