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To: Salvation

It’s because the “Trinity” is a non-biblical document that was in part coerced by an emperor and finally established by Government edict, jailing and murdering of dissadents, and the threat of capital punishment.

Hardly, the manner which Christ established his truths.

Any doctrine that was established by capital punishment/murder, and the continued threat of such was NOT established from/by Jesus Christ.


12 posted on 05/24/2016 7:53:13 AM PDT by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: teppe

Well, if you’re going to bring history and logic and Jesus’ own words into it ...


13 posted on 05/24/2016 8:00:58 AM PDT by katana
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To: teppe

Non Biblical?

Consider yourself corrected.

Matthew 28

18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age.”


14 posted on 05/24/2016 8:05:18 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: teppe; Salvation

Any doctrine that was established by capital punishment/murder, and the continued threat of such was NOT established from/by Jesus Christ.
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So you do not believe that Jesus Christ was crucified, dead and buried, and that the Father raised Him from the dead? How does that square with Isaiah 53, just for starters?

The Truth is that the True and the Living God, Creator of the Heavens and the Earth, is one, and that He manifests inside his creation as a Trinity of Persons. Based on what we can deduce from the creation that testifies to Him, the Universe was created as three concentric spheres, or books of accounting. It is an accounting system, and your name is either in the Lamb’s Book of Life, or it is not.


19 posted on 05/24/2016 8:21:55 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: teppe

The declaration of the Trinity from the Council of Nicea was not coerced by Constantine, it was made in opposition to Constantine. The emperor sided with the Arians, denying the divinity of Christ and treated Him as merely a created being. The Christian understanding of the Trinity stands completely opposite to the heretical Arian understanding and thus Emperor Constantine’s at the time of the council, though I do believe that he ultimately accepted the decision of the council. It was another couple of centuries until Arianism completely faded away and it still pops up from time to time.

Your history is wrong, thus the rest of your statement is baseless.


32 posted on 05/24/2016 10:05:02 AM PDT by Flying Circus (God save us!)
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To: teppe
It’s because the “Trinity” is a non-biblical document that was in part coerced by an emperor and finally established by Government edict, jailing and murdering of dissadents, and the threat of capital punishment.

Horsefeathers. Made-up Mormon "history". The Trinity was the belief of the whole church from the beginning, long before Constantine. No "government edict" was required to make it so, and the idea that heresy was a crime against the state didn't come around until AD 1100 or so.

35 posted on 05/24/2016 10:27:24 AM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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Why Does Jesus Call the Father Greater If We Teach That the Members of the Trinity Are Equal?

Simple answer: the teaching is wrong. Of course that's a real "no go" zone right there. People get really worked up defending the trinity doctrine. After all, it's been around so long, who could possibly question settled doctrine.

Matthew 9:1-7

1 And he entered into a ship, and passed over, and came into his own city.
2 And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.
3 And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth.
4 And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts?
5 For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk?
6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.
7 And he arose, and departed to his house.

"son of man" = human being ב"א (בֵּן-אדם) ben adam, the first entry on this dictionary (abbreviations) page.

Not that complicated. See all the billions of words and quoted texts used to build the trinity sandcastle doctrine? Not one stone will be left upon another. High tide incoming. Time really is quite short.

A certain human could come right along and say to the sick, demoralized, and broken-hearted, "your sins are forgiven", and yet the power behind that statement would surely anger a lot of folks. Those scribes (ha, the very people writing down all the words of Scripture over and over and over) were none too pleased with the "obvious" blasphemer in their midst.

History repeats.

49 posted on 05/24/2016 2:05:33 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: teppe
It’s because the “Trinity” is a non-biblical document that was in part coerced by an emperor and finally established by Government edict, jailing and murdering of dissadents, and the threat of capital punishment.

HAve you read the Pearl of Gret Price?

I hear that it is quite interesting...

91 posted on 05/25/2016 10:29:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
It’s because the “Trinity” is a non-biblical document that was in part coerced by an emperor and finally established by Government edict, jailing and murdering of dissadents, and the threat of capital punishment.

If there is ONE thing I can't stand; it's threats and punishment being doled old by someone in power!


"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

92 posted on 05/25/2016 10:31:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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