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To: terycarl; Elsie; metmom; MHGinTN; boatbums; ealgeone
I only assume that Mary died, she was, however, assumed into heaven....before or after physical death or at the exact time of physical death no one knows nor is it important

I disagree with all that bro, except to say, it is not important.

Jesus relates to me personally through Baptism, Confirmation, the Eucharist and the rest of the Catholic religion....it was, after all, the religion that Christ instituted....not the Navigators...they are a man made sect who somehow feel the authority to override 1,930 years of Christian teaching and do it their way. O.K., I guess, but if I'm playing the odds, I think I'll stick with the learned men who brought Christianity through CENTURIES of trials and doubt

I disagree with every word of that bro.

I have no idea of what Jesus cousin James had to do with the early church, but Peter was, indeed, the titular head of the newly established Catholic church....if he appointed James to head a branch, so be it, and NO, Mary did not have 6 children....if you think that she did, name them and show ANY iota of evidence that they existed.

I disagree with all of that bro. I can't remember the last time you ever gave any evidence to back up anything you have ever said. You may have, or you may not have. I just can't recall if you ever do, so I don't feel like I have ANY obligation to give you ANY evidence of Mary's 6 (or more) kids she had, you know, after she and Joseph did the evil S word (sex) But since you asked about the half brothers and half sisters of Jesus, the result of the evil deed, try Matthew 23: 55,56. Mark 6:3. John 2:12. John 7:3-10. Acts 1:14. 1st Cor 9:5. Gal 1:19. That's more than enough information for you, but if you don't want to accept that, well, that's on you bro.
All of those things are not all that important. The only thing that matters, is what your plan of salvation is. Correct me if I am wrong, but it appears to me, that your plan of salvation is baptism, good works, membership in the so called OTC, plus Sacrements, and a few other things. If that is true, well, my opinion is, you could possibly end up with the short end of the stick.
You are welcome to your opinion bro. I just don't agree with it.

1,117 posted on 07/07/2016 8:04:27 PM PDT by Mark17 (The love of God, how rich and pure, how measureless and strong. It shall forevermore endure.)
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To: Mark17
But since you asked about the half brothers and half sisters of Jesus,

Jesus may indeed have had half brothers and sisters....Joseph, His step father might have had a huge family. We don't really know nor care. Mary gave birth to one child, Jesus, and His birth was well documented.If, for some bizarre reason, you like to believe that she had six kids, feel free to do so, you seem content to change whatever you want in Christian history.

Protestants are called that for a reason...they protest reality, but to no avail, it remains reality. The truth never changes just because you can't accept it. Think about it....a religion which started with its founder and 11 apostles has grown and thrived for 2,016 years and has more than a billion followers and the navigators...80 years old, started by a man, challenges the 2,016 year old cradle of Christianity with hundreds if not thousands of learned Christian scholars....and you suggest that I am bluffing my way into Heaven????????????your logic escapes me.

1,118 posted on 07/08/2016 9:01:04 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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