Posted on 04/27/2016 8:41:02 AM PDT by Salvation
It’s only a sin with Catholics ...
Not at all, I believe that God inspired the scriptures and that Jesus founded a church which interpreted them and compiled a book (the Bible) which the church could, and still does, properly interpret. Do I think that everyone is capable of accurately interpreting the Bible?????The answer is NO, and it is very evident in the world today that there are those who attempt to do so and fail miserably.
Please pay attention to Christ's original church and their teachings. They are the ONLY authorized and CORRECT authority on the Bible.
REALLY????? whoda thunkit??? It is apparent in your postings.....it is SO much easier that way!!
“Let me say this loud and clear NO sacrament saves you or forgives any sin.”
Matthew, Mark, Luke, Paul, and Peter all disagree with you.
“Only the shed blood of Jesus Christ forgives sins and not by works but by Grace through faith.”
That is a very true statement.
What would you be without C O N F L A T I O N ?
There's a passage that says" Jesus took bread in His hands, blessed it, broke it and gave it to His Apostles saying Take and eat of this, THIS IS MY BODY"
I Interpret this as Jesus saying "Take and eat of this, THIS IS MY BODY"
How do you interpret it???
But we understand that to do the extra work of checking on how GOD remains unchanged is not allowed by the magicsteeringthem who you follow.
Here's my counsel on this:
(1) Do not take up somebody else's offenses.
(2) It's acceptable to apply a name whatever value their argument seems to have, but be very careful about calling someone else a pejorative name while discussing their work.
Respectfully . . .
I might agree with some of what you claim as long as it is understood that this "church" isn't exclusive to the Roman Catholic church. God has continued to set up pastors and teachers within the local assemblies to be in authority over their flocks and to teach them those things that God has revealed through His word and which is confirmed by the Holy Spirit to our hearts. This then enables others to evangelize within their families, friends and neighbors and so continue to build Christ's body, His bride, His church. This was the example the Apostles gave and the entire collection of written, Divinely inspired Scripture was recognized, copied, disseminated and taught among the early churches by the end of the first century.
Where you continue to err is in asserting "your" church is the same "original" church that Jesus began nearly two thousand years ago. They're not. They have YET to even publish a "Roman Catholic church" commentary of Scripture and have left humongous gaps in "interpreting" all of Scripture. Heck, you guys skip over half of the Bible in your Scripture reading in Mass and even what is covered is basically just read with little expounding on what was read. How long are your church's homilies these days? Fifteen minutes? Twenty?
Failure to understand God's word is more a problem of the reliance upon the natural man - which is incapable because a spiritual discernment is needed. God is not stingy in illuminating His truth to those who earnestly seek to know it. Sometimes all that is needed is a willing and open heart and an open Bible. Get over this elitist mindset and stop limiting God in whom and how He carries on the building of the spiritual temple of which ALL believers are its living stones.
It is indeed sir. Try it, you'll like it. I rely on the Holy Spirit to help me understand the Word. If you don't, that's on you. How are you going to bluff your way into Heaven? I would like to hear your version. See if I agree with it or not.
Oh, I forgot to mention, I have Catholics coming for Bible study tomorrow. Pray that I can have a good influence on them, and show them the truth. I think the Navigators will be there too. Praise God for them. 😇
How do you interpret it???
I interpret it the correct way. See 449. I think you have been told about 74 million times, but I don't believe you get it yet.
Besides, some dude told me the sacraments are not required to be saved. I agree with whoever said that. How are you going to bluff your way into Heaven?
“Most of us aren’t at the foot of the cross....think of how much more convenient it is for Him to have the seven Sacraments administered in hundreds of thousands of Catholic churches around the world on a daily basis.”
If your not at the foot of the cross you are probably a lost soul.
Convenient... are you kidding me your god is that small! The God I worship is so big that the universe can’t contain him, 1Kings 8:27. The God I worship made and controls through his Son every single event in this realm and the Heavenly realm ( Colossians 1:16-17) and you think he’s has a conveince issue!
Wow I have heard people put God into a box before, but you have used the smallest box I have ever seen.
It pains me that you no relationship with God through Christ Jesus and please don’t tell me do. It’s obvious by your comment that your god lives in that building you call the rcc or even in that little wafer. Please for your soul’s sake accept Christ as your personal Savior and be born again.
You misinterpret Catholicism completely....I, long ago, accepted Christ as my personal savior...and i decided to follow the church which He, Himself founded.I certainly wanted to avail myself of the seven Sacraments which He instituted (6 of the seven, I wasn't ordained a priest)...I accepted the Eucharist as He directed, whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven...convinced me that the Sacrament of reconciliation existed, the 2016 year, unbroken history of His church is definitely a strong point, and witnessing thousands of man made "denominations" over the years did not impress me at all.
You proclaimed, “I, long ago, accepted Christ as my personal savior ...” Do you believe it is up to you to keep yourself saved? Or do you believe you are yet saved or just awaiting salvation after living as close tot he sacraments as you can?
That is an interesting view. So, OK, let's go back a little.
What is your opinion as to who, in our time, has authority to ordain elders of the kind Titus did in Crete when he was left there by Apostle Paul for that purpose?
Men as Titus, as one of the presbuterion.
Under what authority did Titus conduct himself in Crete?
Under ordained authority as a presbyter flowing from Christ, to the apostles, to the presbyters and to others, to whom (conditional) obedience is enjoined as those "over you" in the Lord. (Heb. 13:17) Whom is over you in the Lord that you are to obey? Under what authority did the Scribes and Pharisees sit in authority in the seat of Moses? Just make your argument, which has been already refuted.
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