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Another Baker Under Gay Agenda Threat for Refusing to Bake Wedding Cake
Charisma News ^ | 2/26/16 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 02/28/2016 2:08:12 PM PST by marshmallow

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To: marshmallow; Lera; Twinkie; phil1750; sten; DiogenesLamp; Ezekiel
Does anyone really believe that gay couples just happen to stumble across bakeries owned by Christians? Are we really all that credulous? Here in Eugene Oregon it is self evident from the store front and the wait staff which outstanding bakery would be delighted to participate in helping a gay couple with a wedding cake. I would submit that the process of confrontation with the hated Christian subculture is an important part of the marriage experience.

On that subject I sent this letter to papers and commentators.

The 2015 gay marriage ruling completes a rewrite of our Constitution. The First Amendment says and used to mean, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press”. In contrast the ruling on gay marriage helps illustrates how far the country has departed from first principles.

We are familiar with the term “speech or expression”, which seems an innocuous expansion of the above amendment. However, "expression" enables a nearly unbounded multi-billion dollar pornography industry.

Justice Kennedy's majority opinion states,"The First Amendment ensures that religious organizations and persons are given proper protection as they seek to advocate and teach the principles that are so fulfilling and central to their lives and faith”. Such language severely restricts religious freedom by happening to exclude “free exercise thereof". This oversight means one cannot exercise religious beliefs in business and personal lives even though the Constitution makes no distinction between individuals, organizations and churches.

Now we have a country in which a woman can choose to express herself in the adult film industry, but cannot own a bakery and choose to exercise her religious convictions by refusing to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple.

The Formal End to Judeo-Christian America
http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2015/06/30/the-formal-end-to-judeochristian-america-n2018986/page/full

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES GAY MARRIAGE
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf

Bar the doors?
http://www.worldmag.com/2015/10/bar_the_doors

6/27/15 Wayne Cordeiro
https://www.facebook.com/pastorwaynecordeiro?fref=nf•;;

41 posted on 02/28/2016 6:36:25 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: DiogenesLamp

I do not cower. That is not how I was raised. You assume
much. - IF two queers came into my bakery and start
spouting off, I’d tell them to take a hike. - However, IF
I had product available, I would sell to anyone as long as
I did not have to participate by “decorating” anything with
little same sex dolls. Shoot! I’d just eliminate the dolls
& have flowers available to sell them. - I don’t nose into
others’ business; was raised to shut up & not try to be
a big socializer.


42 posted on 02/28/2016 7:02:47 PM PST by Twinkie (As far as it depends on you, live at peace with all.)
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To: marshmallow

I’m starting to re-think this issue a little bit since I’ve been reading about policemen being refused service.


43 posted on 02/28/2016 7:04:16 PM PST by Bodleian_Girl (Fort Marcy Park - It's how Bernie gets more votes but Hilary wins the state)
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To: fuzzylogic

Exactly correct. They are asking for a product that is not sold by that shop. Kasich would put you in jail ..he’s moved on from the first amendment.


44 posted on 02/28/2016 7:11:18 PM PST by Phillyred
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To: Twinkie
This is not about cakes. It is about forcing acceptance and submission to an abnormal lifestyle.

Our society is turning Nazi-Like, and we are the new Jews. Unless this evil is confronted head on, it will keep growing. Eventually it will be too strong for any of us to survive it.

Accommodating it, no matter how easy it is, is the wrong thing to do. It needs to be rebuked, and vehemently, but I think everyone is too polite and too afraid to do it.

45 posted on 02/28/2016 7:12:08 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Zionist Conspirator
It is often pointed out that these bullies never pick on moslems. That is true. But what no one has noted so far is that they also do not and probably will never pick on Black or Hispanic chrstians. This is because Black and Hispanic chrstians are, like homosexuals, "oppressed."

Or more likely, because if they tried this on Muslims, Blacks, or Hispanics, they would get their @$$es Beaten, Shot, Stabbed or Murdered. It's not because they don't want to bother "oppressed" people, it's because they don't want to end up mangled or dead.

46 posted on 02/28/2016 7:17:10 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Rashputin
Where is Cook, the head of Apple, to defend individuals from being forced to go along with the queer agenda against their will ? If you have no right to your religious beliefs, why do you have a privacy right for your email and information on your iPhone ?

You would think these people would be intelligent enough to understand and appreciate the irony, but no.

47 posted on 02/28/2016 7:18:37 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Phillyred

What I don’t understand is....why has this argument not been made in court?

...tbh, I wouldn’t want to vote for anyone that doesn’t understand this, which would, apparently, mean any of them.

So much of the world has become confused. We have no leadership. I fear 2016, globally and at home. All things must come to pass....and that time is come. I never thought the things that are happening would happen within my life. Gay marriage is a bell tolling...one of many.


48 posted on 02/28/2016 9:26:15 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Lera

Very good post.


49 posted on 02/29/2016 5:00:23 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: DiogenesLamp

On these threads, there’s always somebody saying, “Just bake a bad cake.” It amazes me that people actually think that’s an option or solution. Christians can’t “bake a bad cake.” Purposely doing a poor job, and/or possibly making people who eat the cake sick, are against Christians’ religion just as much as baking a gay cake would be.


50 posted on 02/29/2016 5:41:37 PM PST by Nea Wood
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To: marshmallow

Great graphic!


51 posted on 02/29/2016 5:53:40 PM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: Nea Wood
On these threads, there’s always somebody saying, “Just bake a bad cake.” It amazes me that people actually think that’s an option or solution. Christians can’t “bake a bad cake.” Purposely doing a poor job, and/or possibly making people who eat the cake sick, are against Christians’ religion just as much as baking a gay cake would be.

That is a point I express every time this issue comes up.

This is not about CAKE people. It's about rights and freedom and opposition to "group think" and suppression of dissent.

52 posted on 02/29/2016 6:43:00 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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