Posted on 02/08/2016 7:48:43 AM PST by Salvation
Imminent doesn't mean setting a date.
It still is imminent even though He hasn't come yet.
Jesus said that no man knows the day or hour but He DID tell us to know the signs of the times and gave us what those were.
He wasn't wasting His breath telling us that.
Can non-Catholics admit that a Catholic -—and a priest, yet-—can be right—and very articulate-—about something?
Who would have thought?
I’m happy to see that some non-Catholics here on this thread have given Msgr. Pope his due and I thank them.
“He who is not against Me is with Me.”
You will find several Bible verses speaking on "thief in the night" speaking to many Christians not knowing, or believing, in Jesus calling us UP to Him in the heavens BEFORE the Second Coming. These people will be left behind because they weren't looking for the "Thief". The thief in the night for the Jews was the chief priest walking in the night to find guards sleeping and took their garments. On some Feast of Trumpets in the future we will be removed as Christians to meet Christ in the air and will avoid the coming Tribulation. Rev 3:10 speaks of the Church of Brotherly Love being spared this test. The letters to the churches in Revelation are probably the most important verses in the whole Bible other than Jesus explaining how to be saved. They describe each one of us and speaks to what we need to do to avoid the AntiChrist and the judgement on the Earth. There are some denominations that don't believe that the Church will be Raptured and therefore will be left behind to face the AntiChrist and the Seals, Trumpets, and Bowels of God.
To keep from writing a book here and wasting a bunch of time for people that believe differently, Can we all agree that God has rehearsals for what He is about to do? The Feasts of the Lord spoken of in Lev 23 have given us The Passover murder of Jesus, Unleavened Bread in the Temple cleaning, and First Fruits with Jesus rising from the grave. 50 days later Pentecost came giving us the Holy Spirit verses the Law on Mt Sinai, thousands of years earlier. God has drawn this picture and kept them to the day and hour he promised. The next thing on God's clock is Rosh Hashanah, or Feast of Trumpets. It must happen on some Trumpets Feast in the future or God has been fooling His people for eons. In Israel, the day no one knows is known to be Rosh Hashanah because it lasts 2 days. Just as Turkey Day is known in America as Thanksgiving, Jews know this day.
Now, has there been an end of days before in Scripture? The Great Flood of Noah was just such a day. Matthew even tells us, as it was in the days of Noah to get our attention for the End of Days. If we look at Genesis 7:4, God warned Noah to get in the Ark 7 days in advance of the rain. Noah didn't get one drop of God's judgement on his head. The same with Lot. Lot and family were warned at least 3 days before fire fell. Jonah was sent to warn Nineveh before their judgement and they repented. The way to avoid God's judgement is for the people to repent. At some point, we won't repent.( I believe that day is now) Read Leviticus 18:22-30 and tell me if we can fix this before God comes. I highly doubt it.
There is MUCH more on these prophesies in the rest of the Scriptures. Isaiah, Ezekiel, Joel, Zech, and many others all address this coming calamity.
Rev 1:3 tells us the book is a prophesy and we are blessed to read it. Some claim it happened in 70 AD but it was written in 92-94 AD and John tells us it is about things to come. Would you not feel blessed if you read it, believed it, and followed it's Truth to avoid having your head removed by the Beast?
If you look back at the times God spoke to His people, they heard His voice, but others heard lighting and thunder as the men with Paul on the road to Damascus. A word study of "lightning and thunder" throughout the Bible will reveal much about who hears what.
Talking about this on FR, I'm sure will get the flames going, but that's fine for me. My Job is to warn people so there blood is not on my head. Many people only believe what someone tells them and never look into what they said. That includes Bible teachers. The Bible was written by a Spirit, to Spiritual people, for Spirit filled people. It can only be understood by people with the Holy Spirit. This is why Jesus wrote in parables for the most sensitive subjects. If people want to know God things, they can find it in the Bible if they look. It's not kept secret, but you must hunt for it to find it. People that love the Lord will search out the Truth but others won't think it's that important and stop looking. When Jesus calls us to His Wedding Feast, we will spend the next 7 years in the "Ark" He built for us while the world is destroyed. There will be "foolish virgins" left behind lacking in "oil" and they will either take the mark and end up in hell, or lose their head for Christ. I think this is good to know info even for your children as they will face the Beast if they are left behind. God tells us that to die for our friends is love. What people miss is, if we are friends of God, We will die for Christ. You are said to die to your flesh under water at your baptism and are raised as a new creature. If you didn't kill your flesh under the water and continued to live in your flesh, you will face the Beast and MUST lose your life for Christ to be with Him. If you decide to take the mark to live, you just bought yourself no more than a couple of years, then you will receive a plague and die, then be thrown into the lake of fire.
Give your life to the Lord, get Raptured, spend eternity in Heaven, avoid the head chopping. It's all good!
see #23
**Give your life to the Lord, **
Exactly what Catholics do.
I don’t specifically remember the Bible saying anything about a rapture, it’s a completely fabricated event stemming from debate on whether the faithful will be left on Earth for the tribulation.
Being caught up in the sky with Jesus and his return are the same event. There is very very little evidence indicating a “rapture” type event will occur. But it is clear that Jesus will return.
Thessalonians 5:2
For you know quite well that the day of the Lord’s return will come unexpectedly, like a thief in the night.
Meaning it won’t be expected and man won’t be prepared.
The signs have been observed on and off for 2,ooo years I posit that it is not imminent and based upon factual history I am correct.
I’ll bet you think that the discourse found in Luke is the same as the Olivet discourse found in Matthew and Mark. As to the notion that the rapture event is an imagined anomaly, well Paul wrote about it after teaching his new converts about it, so it was ‘new information’ with Paul, and has been debated ever since, off and on.
She gets a kick out of asking me if I missed that a thread is a caucus thread. Then complaint to the moderator gets even a neutral post pulled I guess because I’m not a catholic.
The word is “harpazo” in Greek, 1 Thess 4:17, translated as caught up. In Latin, it is more like the word rapture. I don’t do Latin so I rely on the Greek G726 in Strongs. “Harpazo” appears 13 times in the KJV. We go to meet Jesus in the air. He doesn’t set foot on earth till after the Tribulation. Some words not in the Bible is pope, nuns, and cardinals.
If you are talking about me, then don’t you think it would be polite and Christian to ping me to your comment?
>> It’s great that we can access all these points of view & they mesh together beautifully. Sometimes, almost like it was planned that way (hmmm).
hmmm, indeed! :-)
“There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.”
I pray that we disciples of Jesus the King of Kings and Lord of Lords will experience (another) great Revival. I pray that we tamp down our eight-way denominational mud wrestling and unite behind the Cross of JESUS to face the REAL Kingdom foe — which is that false religion of satan’s creation that the world calls Islam.
Thank you for the blessing — I’ll take it with gratitude! — and I pray GOD’s rich blessings on you and DH as well. In Jesus’ name.
Oh; I get that all the time when I agree with something Rome teaches.
It's Tuesday 7:33 AM here in Central Indiana.
Mark; what day and hour is it at your place in the Phillipines?
Amen!
There are many fine Catholics that preach the truth from Scripture.
There are many fine Catholics that preach Catholic doctrine that is NOT found in Scripture.
It's mid-summer in New Zealand right now.
Exactly what Catholics do.
HMMMmmm...
Bonaventure: …the gates of heaven will open to all who confide in the protection of Mary. Blessed are they who know thee, O Mother of God, for the knowledge of THEE is the high road to everlasting life, and the publication of thy virtues is the way of ETERNAL SALVATION . Give ear, O ye nations; and all you who desire heaven , serve, honor Mary, and certainly you will find ETERNAL LIFE.
Ephem: …devotion to the divine Mother…is the unlocking of the heavenly Jerusalem.
Blosius: To the, O Lady, are committed the KEYS and the treasures of the kingdom of Heaven.
Ambrose: …constantly pray ‘Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since thou hast its KEYS.
Fulgetius: …by Mary God descended from Heaven into the world, that by HER man might ascend from earth to Heaven.
Athanasius: …And, thou, O Lady, wast filled with grace, that thou mightiest be the way of our SALVATION and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom.
Richard of Laurence: Mary, in fine, is the mistress of heaven; for there she commands as she wills, and ADMITS whom she wills.
Guerric: …he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there…and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.
Anselm: It suffices, O Lady, that thou willest it, and our SALVATION is certain.
Antoninus: …souls protected by Mary, and on which she casts her eyes, are NECESSARILY JUSTIFIED AND SAVED.
It's fairly early in the NT:
Matthew 24:39-41
39and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be. 40"Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left. 41"Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one will be left.
Paul expands on it later:
1 Thessalonians 4:15-17
15 According to the Lord's word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.
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