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How Open Minded Should Our Children Be?
The Yeshiva.Net ^ | Jan 2013 | Rabbi Joseph Isaac Jacobson

Posted on 01/27/2016 11:19:57 PM PST by Phinneous

If you look at an English translation of Ex 18:4, (NIV)

and the other was named Eliezer, for he said, "My father's God was my helper; he saved me from the sword of Pharaoh."

all versions refer to Eliezer as "the other," when in fact this is a mistranslation of the Hebrew original. In Hebrew Moses' children are referred to as:

...ONE of whom was named Gershom....and ONE of whom was named Eliezer.

Whenever there are seeming errors in grammar or syntax, the rabbis expound... The attached class explored the deeper meaning behind this "mistake" in the text of our Holy Bible.


TOPICS: Judaism; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: holymoses; jethro; torah

1 posted on 01/27/2016 11:19:57 PM PST by Phinneous
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To: Phinneous

Some people are so open-minded their brains actually fall out!

2 posted on 01/27/2016 11:22:31 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Phinneous
look both ways, don't talk with your mouth full, yes sir/no sir, keep your feet off of the furniture, sit up straight, don't teeter ...

They're frikkin' KIDS ... let them be kids


Stupid stuff will happen all by itself and our kids need a firm and solid core foundation of tools to determine right from wrong

All life will turn out OK if we teach them right

3 posted on 01/27/2016 11:24:00 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: knarf

Nicely put.


4 posted on 01/27/2016 11:25:29 PM PST by txnativegop (Tired of liberals, even a few in my own family.)
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To: Phinneous

Keep an open mind, and someone will throw garbage in it.


5 posted on 01/27/2016 11:36:41 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Keep an open mind, and someone will throw garbage in it.

Mmmm .... garbage .... yummy ....

Well, that is to say, this is a tortured metaphor. To continue it, I would say that the mind is a fiery furnace.

6 posted on 01/27/2016 11:53:21 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Phinneous

I wanted my kids to be aware of every current evil position advocated by the Left and also of the reasons why the answers I taught were right. I did not teach open-mindedness. I taught values and critical thinking. My approach was pretty much:

Homosexuality is sinful - God says so, and here’s what the Greek/Aramaic says word-by-word. Here’s why homosexuality is a bad choice in terms of practical consequences in today’s world.

Socialism is immoral - here’s why in terms of basic values. Here’s evidence that socialism was harmful time after time, whether national-socialist, soviet-socialist, or Obama-socialist, and more broadly that big government is innately harmful.

Self-defense is a basic God-given natural right. Here’s what philosophers have said on that topic. Here’s the words of the Second Amendment. Diagram the sentence, and assume it means what it says. Let’s go shooting - do you see any evil in the steel, brass, and lead?

Whatever bandwagon the far left fringe jumps on next, I believe my kids are ready for it. My highest priority as a parent was to raise my children to be good people. That means that they would be Christians who are immune to all of Satan’s temptations, regardless of how future liberals phrase the arguments in favor of envy (tax the rich), avarice (redistribute wealth), lust (pro-gay, pro-divorce, pro-adultery, pro-casual sex, pro-abortion), gluttony, pride, anger (the vindictive prosecutions of bakers, photographers, florists, and others who will not violate their beliefs to participate in a farce imitating marriage), or sloth (pro-welfare as a way of life).


7 posted on 01/28/2016 1:11:24 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Phinneous
"Open Minded" all too often means, abandon your principles, do it our way.

"Open Minded" is often used like "reasonable" and "common sense", just a lever to get you started down the slippery slope.

8 posted on 01/28/2016 1:55:51 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: Pollster1

How old are your children ?


9 posted on 01/28/2016 4:16:57 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Blue Jays

There is a corollary to “open mindedness.” In seminary, we used to say, “It’s good to have a brainwashing, depending on who is washing it.”


10 posted on 01/28/2016 4:40:34 AM PST by Phinneous (She-yibaneh beis hamikdash bi-m'heirah v'yameinu v'sein chelkeinu b'sorahsecha.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Ping


11 posted on 01/28/2016 4:41:16 AM PST by Phinneous (She-yibaneh beis hamikdash bi-m'heirah v'yameinu v'sein chelkeinu b'sorahsecha.)
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To: Phinneous

My kids were as open minded as their Mother told them to be. Mrs Hero was not the most lenient warden.
They were kids for pete’s sake!

Do what Mommy tells you to do.
Save your brass.
Don’t nick the bowel.
Don’t swim after you eat.
Lead with our left.
NEVER put water in your single malt.

I mean, it’s just basic stuff kids need to know . . .


12 posted on 01/28/2016 4:53:39 AM PST by Macoozie ("Estoy votando por Ted 2016!" bumper stickers available)
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To: Phinneous

There’s really no such thing as “open minded”. Everybody has a worldview or concept of reality which rests on axiomatic first principles that cannot be proven with reason or logic. That’s what makes them first principles.


13 posted on 01/28/2016 5:01:40 AM PST by circlecity
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
"Open Minded" all too often means, abandon your principles, do it our way.

Bingo. "Open Minded" is liberal code that means exactly what you stated.

14 posted on 01/28/2016 5:04:17 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: circlecity; knarf; Macoozie; Blue Jays; SWAMPSNIPER; Pollster1; Smokin' Joe

Even if you are inclined to disregard Jewish rabbinical tradition, give a listen to the first 5 minutes of the class. It discusses an amazing story about a “deal” Moses made with his father in law Jethro (an expert former idol worshipper) about the education of his first son.


15 posted on 01/28/2016 5:24:23 AM PST by Phinneous (She-yibaneh beis hamikdash bi-m'heirah v'yameinu v'sein chelkeinu b'sorahsecha.)
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To: knarf
How old are your children?

They are all grown - in college or in jobs. From what I can see so far, they all turned out well. They are all majoring in real majors that lead to productive jobs or have college-based careers. They are all conservatives. They are all active in church. They're divided on Obama - half think he's shockingly incompetent and the other half think he is consciously evil - but otherwise agree on everything important.

16 posted on 01/28/2016 5:30:51 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Phinneous

I was raised with an open mind. Didn’t do me much good until I purchased my first Tanakh.


17 posted on 01/28/2016 5:47:07 AM PST by Read Write Repeat (Not one convinced me they want the job yet)
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To: Read Write Repeat

Bravo.

To quote Charleston Heston : Let my people go.

To finish G-d’s quote:... To serve me on this mountain.


18 posted on 01/28/2016 6:01:32 AM PST by Phinneous (She-yibaneh beis hamikdash bi-m'heirah v'yameinu v'sein chelkeinu b'sorahsecha.)
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To: Blue Jays
Some people are so open-minded their brains actually fall out!

Wonderful picture you have drawn. :o)

19 posted on 01/28/2016 12:23:49 PM PST by cloudmountain
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