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Pope Francis Asks Protestants to Forgive Catholics for Persecution
The Catholic Herald (UK) ^ | 1/26/16 | CNS

Posted on 01/27/2016 6:19:11 AM PST by marshmallow

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1 posted on 01/27/2016 6:19:11 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Headline is far more inflammatory that the actual article. Hate that.


2 posted on 01/27/2016 6:21:30 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: marshmallow

I’m not sure too many Protestants were thinking about this.


3 posted on 01/27/2016 6:22:16 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

Agree. The Inquisition is not tops on my list of concerns. Being the lefty he is, Francis (like Obama) must apologize gratuitously for everything.


4 posted on 01/27/2016 6:25:16 AM PST by twister881
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To: twister881

Good point.


5 posted on 01/27/2016 6:26:19 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: marshmallow

God works in mysterious ways. There is a reason for this guy. Perhaps I will live long enough to understand. Perhaps not.


6 posted on 01/27/2016 6:26:53 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: marshmallow

My ancestor was burned at the stake — in 1612, IIRC — because he didn’t believe in infant baptism. (It’s not Biblical.) I guess I won’t forgive them.


7 posted on 01/27/2016 6:31:00 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Proud bitter clinger)
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To: marshmallow
I do not like this pope and I'll be very up front about it, I think he's Peter the Roman...

But I have my faith in the Lord, and I pray and read the Bible always, I don't listen to this man because that is all he is, is a man who is trying to get a ‘one world government’ thinking the Catholic Church is going to be the only church...

He's to lead his flock in the beliefs of Catholic teachings and not in World government!!!

8 posted on 01/27/2016 6:31:29 AM PST by HarleyLady27 ("The Force Awakens"!!! TRUMP;TRUMP;TRUMP;TRUMP!!! 100%)
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To: twister881

Liberals have an apology fetish.


9 posted on 01/27/2016 6:35:33 AM PST by Mannaggia l'America
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To: marshmallow
Nobody expects the...
10 posted on 01/27/2016 6:36:26 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: marshmallow

I hate to interject a bit of reality, but the Protestants started off attacking Catholics about as soon as Luther had followers. In addition, even the schismatic Anglican Church (before it accepted full blown Protestantism from Cranmer and went beyond mere schism) was ruthless in its attacks against Catholics, not only torturing and killing them, but destroying or seizing churches and monasteries, killing religious or expelling them from their convents to starve to death in the roads, all to extend the new religion of Henry VIII.

In Germany, Protestantism immediately unleashed a bloodbath because of Luther’s connection with various German rulers, and not much later, Calvin launched his own war not only on Catholics but on other Protestants. Geneva was the scene of burning at the stake and numerous other tortures and execution methods; not to mention when he marched Catholics naked into the lake in the winter and made them stand there until they froze to death. I believe he did the same with a group of Anabaptists.


11 posted on 01/27/2016 6:37:42 AM PST by livius
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To: MayflowerMadam

Acts 18:8 and the Didache. Infant baptism is biblical.

Burning at the stake was typically done by secular authorities who wanted pure Catholicism in their land.


12 posted on 01/27/2016 6:43:13 AM PST by impimp
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To: livius

That spread to the New World, as well. A Jesuit Priest sold himself to one of my ancestors and thus became property of the Manor Lord, and survived the Protestant Reformation in Maryland (ca. 1730). He purchased his freedom after things settled down. Had he not had such protection, his life would have been forfeit.


13 posted on 01/27/2016 6:44:04 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: marshmallow

The pope should apologize for not starting a Crusade in the last few hundred years. That is why we are having so much trouble today. I’m Protestant but I appreciate all that was done during the Crusades.


14 posted on 01/27/2016 6:44:09 AM PST by ghosthost
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To: marshmallow

It’s not the persecution that I’m annoyed with. It’s the doctrine.


15 posted on 01/27/2016 6:45:17 AM PST by DungeonMaster (the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.)
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To: twister881

What about Protestants apologizing for their murder of Catholics?

Pope Francis (Obama’s soul mate) brings the topic of the extermination of heretics by the Catholic Church.

The British Jewish historian Henry Kamen, well-known scholar of the Spanish Inquisition, has calculated a total of some 2,000 victims put to death along its four centuries of existence.

Kamen adds that “it is interesting to compare the statistics on sentences to death of civilians and inquisitorial tribunals between the 15th and 18th centuries in Protestant Europe: for every one hundred death sentences handed down by courts, the Inquisition (Catholic) issued one.”

According to Professor Philip Wayne Powell, were executed just over 100 people in the 250 years in which it was acting the Inquisition in the Spanish America.

The number of Protestants condemned to death by the Catholic Inquisition, from 1520 until 1820 that was deleted, or in 300 years, according to the German Protestant researcher who specialized in this subject, Schafer, was 220; of them, only 12 were burned.
Allow me to present historical facts regarding the Protestant Inquisition.

Sir James Stephen calculates that in 300 years there was in Protestant England 264,000 sentenced to death for various crimes. About 800 per year (more than two per day).

Luther, founder of Protestantism, in 1525 writes the nobles: “how many farmers can kill: wound, paste, disgorging to himself.” Happy if you die in it, you die in obedience to the word divine. More than one hundred thousand peasants perished. Luther also demanded that the heretics must be condemned without hearing them... “ (Amazing parallel with the current Islamofascism).

Luther wrote in July 1525 in his open letter against the peasants: “If you believe that this answer is too hard and that its only purpose is to let them shut up by violence, I reply that this is true - a rebel does not deserve to be replied with reasons, because does not accept them.” The appropriate response is a punch that causes you to bleed nose. The farmers don’t want to hear... need to open them ears with bullets until they their heads explode. Who does not want to hear the word of God when is told with goodness has to listen to the executioner when it arrives with his axe... I don’t want to hear or know nothing of mercy.”

About Jews in his famous lectures of desktop Luther said: “throwing the Jews sulfur and tar, if one could throw them fire from hell, so much better.... and this must be done in honor of our Lord and of Christianity…Their houses must be chipped and destroyed... be removed their books of prayers and Talmud, their rabbis are prohibited from teaching, under the penalty of death, from now on. And if all this were little, they must be expelled from the country as rabid dogs.”

In Protestant Germany, more than 100,000 witches were burned. Even children seven years old and dying elderly. A single judge burned in 16 years 800 witches (an average of 50 people a year).

In 1560 the Scottish Parliament decreed the death penalty against all Catholics. Here are some articles of the English code for Ireland:

“Catholic teaching to other Catholic or Protestant shall be hanged.”

“If a Catholic acquires land, all Protestant has the right to deprive him.”

“Perpetual exile to every Catholic priest; those who evaded it, be half hanged alive and then dismembered”.

The Calvinist communities of Paris, Orleans, Rouen, Lyon, Angey at their general synod in 1559, enacted death penalty to the heretics.

Should be taken into account that the Protestant Inquisition existed in most of Europe in which inmates lacked any legal protection and of which no one speaks.

Catholics on the other hand not enjoyed any legal protection under the Protestants, standing out for its cruelty the reigns of Elizabeth I and James I of England when Catholics were dismembered tied to the legs of four horses. They were times of great barbarity when attached to an English monarch the privilege of the divorce by beheading of his wife.

“Those who ignore history are condemned to repeat it” Jorge Santayana


16 posted on 01/27/2016 6:47:14 AM PST by Dqban22
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To: MayflowerMadam

Whoa, you idiot! Why aren’t you demanding reparations!


17 posted on 01/27/2016 6:53:32 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: livius

The Pope should first apologize to the Catholic victims of the apostate Henry VIII, original host of `Queen For A Day’.

He needs to study the Thirty Years War as well.


18 posted on 01/27/2016 7:00:42 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: marshmallow

Can’t seem to recall ever meeting a single living Catholic who participated in the reformation-era prosecutions. As for forgiving those who did, all now long dead, what wrong did they do to me personally?

Kinda doubt any Catholics now alive have ever met a living Protestant who misbehaved during that era.

Injury or guilt aren’t communicable, imputed as if they were diseases, no matter what American race baiters want to believe. Scripture is rather clear: a man that sins dies for his own sin, not that of his relations.


19 posted on 01/27/2016 7:04:49 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: DungeonMaster

Yeppers.


20 posted on 01/27/2016 7:07:25 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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