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Don’t confuse traditional marriage with other kinds of unions, says Pope
Catholic Herald ^ | January 25, 2016

Posted on 01/25/2016 3:30:34 PM PST by NYer

Francis met with members of the Roman Rota on Friday

Pope Francis said there can be no confusion between God's plan for marriage as an indissoluble bond between one man and woman who are open to life, and other sorts of unions.

"The Church, in fact, can demonstrate God's unwavering merciful love toward families, especially those wounded by sin and life's trials, and at the same time proclaim the essential truth of marriage according to God's plan," the Pope said on Friday, in a meeting with members of the Roman Rota. Francis holds the annual meeting to inaugurate the Vatican court's judicial year.

Pope Francis said the court, which hears requests for marriage annulments, helps support families and the truth about the sacred bond of marriage.

In evaluating and judging marriage cases and contributing to formation, the Roman Rota helps promote and proclaim the truth, he said.

When the Church, through the court's service, seeks to declare the truth about marriage in each specific case, it always bears in mind that those "who, through free choice or unfortunate circumstances in life, live in an objective state of error continue to be the object of the merciful love of Christ and therefore of the Church, too."

The two gatherings of the Synod of Bishops focused on the family were occasions of "in-depth, knowledgeable discernment" and they gave the Church a chance to tell "the world that there can be no confusion between the family desired by God and any other kind of union," the Pope said.

"The family, based on indissoluble, unitive and procreative marriage, is part of God's 'dream' and the Church's for the salvation of humanity," he said.

The Church will always offer the truth about marriage, he said, "not as an ideal for the few, despite modern examples based on what is fleeting and transitory, but as a reality that, with Christ's grace, can be lived by all the baptised faithful."

That means there is great pastoral urgency for adequate marriage preparation, for example, he said, with a kind of marriage "catechumenate" that was suggested during the synods on the family. A catechumenate would entail a longer process of formation before marriage, as well as during the years right after the wedding.

While the family is considered to be a "domestic Church," he said, the Church is the family of God. Therefore, the church must be filled with a loving, "family spirit," where people are "no longer strangers and sojourners," but members of God's family, he said.

The Church -- as both mother and teacher -- knows that not every one of her children is perfect, he said.

"The Church knows that some Christians have a faith that's strong, formed from love, strengthened by good catechesis and nourished by prayer and a sacramental life," the Pope said, "while others have a faith that's weak, neglected, unformed, poorly taught or forgotten."

The Pope reiterated Church teaching that the level of a person's faith "is not an essential condition of matrimonial consent" and in fact, he said, it is not unusual for engaged couples to go into a marriage with a limited understanding of the fullness of God's plan.

"The lack of formation in the faith and even error concerning the unity, indissolubility and the sacramental dignity of marriage invalidate matrimonial consent only when they determine" or condition a person's will, he said.

Precisely for this reason, "errors which concern the sacramentality of marriage must be evaluated very carefully," he said.


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To: SumProVita

All true. But then he said all those other things :-)


21 posted on 01/26/2016 7:03:27 AM PST by heye2monn
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To: NYer; Tax-chick

AFL-CIO, SEIU, International Lady Garment Workers, Teamsters?


22 posted on 01/26/2016 7:04:55 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

My marriage is very different from those unions.

My children, on the other hand, are kind of like SEIU goons ...


23 posted on 01/26/2016 8:18:19 AM PST by Tax-chick ("This is all going to end very badly." ~ Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: FourtySeven
You don't consider the following to be a snarky reply?

Or stop calling yourself Catholic. I don't care what the anti-Catholics say anymore but Catholics I hold to a higher standard. So if your motivation is to bash him for whatever he does just let me know. I'll know to ignore your posts too in the future, just like I ignore all the other anti-Catholics anymore.

Show the documentation that proves he didn't admonish them at all or shut up.

Here's what the homo said after he and his "husband" met with Bergoglio:

>>Grassi said the Pope has long known that he is gay, but has never condemned his sexuality or his same-sex relationship. In the video, Francis says he recalls meeting Grassi's boyfriend in Rome.<<

>>"He has never been judgmental," Grassi said. "He has never said anything negative."<<

And here's what the lesbian said after she and her fiance met with Bergoglio:

>>"But if this Pope has a long life, which all of his followers hope," Neria says, "I think things will change."<<

So why don't you practice what you preach, Fourty-seven, and shut-up?

24 posted on 01/26/2016 9:12:31 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Why did Jesus associate with tax collectors, prostitutes and other sinners...speak with them, love them and even heal them?

Please remember that he utterly SHOCKED the super pius and very traditional followers of religious laws of His time.


25 posted on 01/26/2016 10:07:02 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: FourtySeven

Thank you for a very good post. We are not required to agree with ANY Pope on matters of economics or science. We ARE required to pray for him and show respect for him. Respectful disagreement is these areas is good...though we should always be praying far MORE than disagreeing.

If one does not pray MORE for the Holy Father than one criticizes him, it is sinful....and further divides the Body of Christ. That is the teaching of the Church.

;-)


26 posted on 01/26/2016 10:14:48 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: SumProVita

If I am correct, the quote you offer from the CCC (thank you for that quote) is from the Ignatian Exercises, Point #22.

It has been a mainstay for me for a long time.


27 posted on 01/26/2016 10:17:37 AM PST by asyouwish (Philippians 4:8)
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To: SumProVita

Thank you for this post.


28 posted on 01/26/2016 10:18:25 AM PST by asyouwish (Philippians 4:8)
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To: heye2monn

What *things?* And who said he said such *things?* Were those *things* presented within the proper contextual framework?

Overall, when we share *things* are we fostering unity and love of the brethren or dissension?


29 posted on 01/26/2016 10:19:36 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: asyouwish

Funny you should mention that as St. Ignatius is one of my favorites. I love the Examen Prayer and his teaching regarding the Discernment of Spirits. These things really help us grow in our relationship with God and assist us greatly in overcoming our own sinful tendencies.

Thank you for your kind words. ;-)


30 posted on 01/26/2016 10:27:36 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: SumProVita

Your posts encourage me. We are “companions on the journey”.

I, too, pray the Examen Prayer and know the importance of his Discernment of Spirits.


31 posted on 01/26/2016 11:32:25 AM PST by asyouwish (Philippians 4:8)
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To: asyouwish

Well...your posting has brought a wonderful joy to my day as well. Yes, we are “companions on the journey.” We are on the Way....the way of the Passion and great joy...and we are definitely NOT alone. Many people are discovering this way anew...and all of this is extremely hopeful to me.

The greater the cultural deterioration around us...the more the Body of Christ is being quietly and strongly restored in profound ways.

:-)


32 posted on 01/26/2016 12:07:21 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: SumProVita

Why did God destroy Sodom?


33 posted on 01/26/2016 12:52:20 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: SumProVita
Why did Jesus associate with tax collectors, prostitutes and other sinners...speak with them, love them and even heal them?

When did Jesus associate with sodomite couples?

What sodomite couples has Bergoglio healed?

34 posted on 01/26/2016 3:02:51 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: SumProVita; FourtySeven; asyouwish; fatima
We are not required to agree with ANY Pope on matters of economics or science.

Not only that, we are commanded to not agree to ANY heresy preached, or allowed preached, on matters of faith and morals by a pope.

Pope's encouragement of airing heresy is severing the Church

35 posted on 01/26/2016 5:42:05 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: SumProVita; FourtySeven; asyouwish; fatima
Is the Pope Toying with Heresy?
36 posted on 01/26/2016 5:50:49 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide; SumProVita; FourtySeven; asyouwish; fatima

With all due respect to Patrick Buchanan, I’m not interested in what he thinks the Pope believes (without the words of Francis to conclusively back up such suspicions). Again, post proof (of Francis’ own documented words) showing his lack of support of traditional marriage or just stop. You’re in danger of calumnity against the Pontiff.

As an aside, as I said then (at the conclusion of the synod) I personally believe he is going to come out in support of marriage (by upholding the ban on administration of the Eucharist to divorced and remarried) when he comes out with his exhortation sometime this year (the buzz is that that will come probably sometime around the feast day of St Joseph, so soon).

Wait until then. Otherwise you’re just participating in breathless, conspiracy theory type nonsense that further divides the Body. All of this, Buchannan’s post included, is just unsubstantiated paranoia.


37 posted on 01/27/2016 7:48:17 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven

Thank you.


38 posted on 01/27/2016 12:01:45 PM PST by asyouwish (Philippians 4:8)
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To: heye2monn
You haven't been paying attention. Pope upholds the teaching for the Church (tiny, non-updated, partial list):

LINKS:

New Pope Francis called homosexual "marriage" a "machination of the Father of Lies"

Pope Francis: Gender Theory Is a Threat to Society

Pope: Marriage between man and woman is threatened by gender ideology

Pope Francis: "Children have a 'Right' to a Mother and Father"

Pope Francis: marriage inscribed in creation (Man/Woman)

A Letter to Pope Francis (Pope defends man-woman marriage)

Pope: Men, Women "Different"

Pope Rejects "So-Called Gender Theory"

Pope Francis Defends Human Nature Against Gender Radicals

Pope's Shocking Hitler Youth Comparison (Pope blasts gender theory)

Vatican says "no" to transsexual godparents amid Spain controversy

The Family As God ills it, 0ne man and one woman, is being deformed Pope Francis Against Gay Marriage, Gay Adoption

Pope Francis supports Slovak effort to ban gay "marriage", adoption

"Pope Bemoans Gay Lobby” (LINK)

Gay Advocacy Groups Rush to Demonize Pope Francis

Pope Francis Tells Couples To Wait Until Marriage To Have Sex

Pope strongly defends Catholic teaching against contraception

Pope Francis clear on denying Communion to those who facilitate in abortion

The Closed Door of Pope Francis (Speaks against abortion, divorce, and homosexuality)

Pope Francis and the family, the next step (pro-Traditional Family)

Pope Francis is starting to look a lot like Sarah Palin (Guardian UK dumps Francis)

Pope Francis 'refuses' gay French ambassador

Kasper is Not the 'Pope's Theologian,' Says Leading African Cardinal

Cardinal Burke Denies Rift With Pope, Warns of ‘Gay Agenda’ for Synod

Pope Rejected Gay French Diplomat as Ambassador to Holy See

Pope Francis condemns gender theory a third time: ‘The family is under attack’

Pope Francis defends church’s opposition to artificial contraception

Pope Francis: ‘The Choice To Not Have Children Is Selfish’

Pope declares couples who don’t want kids ‘selfish,’ says they are part of a ‘greedy generation’

Pope Francis on abortion: ‘Never, never does killing a person resolve a problem’

Pope Francis praises Chilean mother who chose life for baby with anencephaly at heart of abortion debate

Bringing children into the world is never a ‘mistake’: Pope Francis

Don’t be afraid to have more children: Pope Francis

Pope Francis Defends Human Nature Against Gender Radicals

Pope's Shocking Hitler Youth Comparison (Pope blasts gender theory)

Pope to Catholic couples: you can’t get married if you’re not open to children

Pope Francis praises Humanae Vitae, warns of attacks on family

Pope Didn’t Bless ‘Gender Theory’ Children’s Books

Pope Francis Urges Repeal of Marriage Equality in Slovenia Advocate.com-Dec 17, 2015

He may have gay friends and say “Who am I to judge?” but Pope Francis is unwavering in his opposition to same-sex marriage, this week ...

Pope Urges Slovenia to Oppose Gay Marriage as Country Heads to ...

Breitbart News-Dec 19, 2015


What, you haven't seen these in the mainstream media, either?

Ever wonder why?



39 posted on 01/27/2016 7:46:04 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Everyone is ignorant, only on different subjects." - Will Rogers)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I am in debt to you for this post.
Thank you very much.


40 posted on 01/27/2016 8:56:06 PM PST by asyouwish (Philippians 4:8)
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