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Moscow wants Turkey to return Cathedral of St. Sophia to Orthodox Church
RISU ^ | 11-26-2015 | Staff

Posted on 11/27/2015 6:54:47 AM PST by NRx

The State Duma deputies supported the idea of ​​return of Hagia Sophia in Istanbul to the Orthodox Church. This was stated by Chairman of Committee on Property, coordinator of inter-factional parliamentary group on the protection of Christian values ​​Sergei Gavrilov, TSN reports.

Today, when the Russian-Turkish relations are undergoing “endurance trial,”the mutual friendly initiatives and proposals are of special importance, Gavrilov says.

“The Russian side deems it possible to recur to the ancient shrine of the Christian world, located in Turkey, Istanbul - St. Sophia (Hagia Sophia) of Constantinople –an ancient Byzantine cathedral, which is associated with the history of the Universal Christian Church. We expect a friendly step from the Turkish side - returning St Sophia Cathedral of Constantinople to the Christian Church,” the deputy said.

He added that Russia is ready to participate financially, and involve the best Russian restorers and scientistsin the restoration of the universal Christian monument.

“This step would help Turkey and Islam demonstrate that good will is above politics. Saint Sophia should be returned to Christians,” the parliamentarian said.

Hagia Sophia in Istanbul was converted into a mosque. In 1935, Hagia Sophia acquired the status of museum. St Sophia Cathedral was included in the UNESCO World Heritage List among theother monuments of Istanbul’s historic center in 1985.


TOPICS: History; Islam; Orthodox Christian; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: constantinople; hagiasophia; istanbul; orthodox; orthodoxchurch; russia; stateduma; turkey
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To: Slyfox

Actually, until 1054 St. Peter’s Basilica was Orthodox.


21 posted on 11/27/2015 8:15:59 AM PST by NRx (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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To: vladimir998; silverleaf; NRx

“The papacy helped the EC get the use of its forcibly closed seminary back. That’s far more than the Russians (Orthodox Church clergy or Duma deputies) have accomplished.”

The “papacy” did what? Where did you get this nonsense? Halki is closed to this day! The Turkish dog Erdogan has proclaimed that it will only open when the grand mosque in Athens opens and the “call to prayer” is heard across the city!

If anyone can get Halki open, it will be the Russians...hopefully when they march through The City and celebrate the first Divine Liturgy in Agia Sophia since May 28, 1453!


22 posted on 11/27/2015 8:20:37 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen and you, O death, are annihilated!)
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To: Slyfox

Well, I guess there’s some truth to that. It had been Orthodox for several centuries when the Ottomans took it over but the first half of its existence was before the official split.


23 posted on 11/27/2015 8:25:40 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: NRx

Now we’re talking.


24 posted on 11/27/2015 8:25:52 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: NRx

The Islamic Radicals now in power in Ankara want these symbols of Christian heritage converted back into mosques or ripped down. Russia has many ways to undermine Turkey—some overt some secret. Putin has no scrupples about assassinations—and “wet work”. In the end —the Christians may well get their big Church back. The Kurds might even get their state after all too—as a satrap of the new Russian Empire.


25 posted on 11/27/2015 8:26:45 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: vladimir998

Wow, touchy.


26 posted on 11/27/2015 8:29:38 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Kolokotronis

“If anyone can get Halki open, it will be the Russians...hopefully when they march through The City and celebrate the first Divine Liturgy in Agia Sophia since May 28, 1453!”

That won’t be happening either.


27 posted on 11/27/2015 8:29:48 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Yardstick
Hagia Sophia was built 517 years before the schism between East and West, so for those 5 centuries, it was at least de jure in communion with the Pope of Rome, and therefore a Catholic church as well as an Orthodox one.

At the time of the Turkish conquest, the Greek and Roman churches had reunited (unfortunately, the reunion was a temporary one), so it was again de jure in communion with the Pope.

28 posted on 11/27/2015 8:38:33 AM PST by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: NRx

Do Putin and Erdogan want a war? The are acting like it.


29 posted on 11/27/2015 8:38:55 AM PST by Rummyfan (Let us now try liberty)
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To: Kolokotronis
celebrate the first Divine Liturgy in Agia Sophia since May 28, 1453!

That was supposed to have happened in 1915, dagnabbit. ("Winston Churchill, call your office. Winston Churchill ...)

30 posted on 11/27/2015 8:41:53 AM PST by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: NRx

But the Orthodox and the Catholic did not split until 1054. Until 1054 they were one Church.


31 posted on 11/27/2015 8:51:47 AM PST by Slyfox (Will no one rid us of this meddlesome president?)
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To: Campion

“That was supposed to have happened in 1915, dagnabbit. (”Winston Churchill, call your office. Winston Churchill ...)”

A point which never ceased to irritate my Greek grandfather, a man who carried Hun lead from the Western Front in his body to the day he died.


32 posted on 11/27/2015 8:52:46 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen and you, O death, are annihilated!)
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To: vladimir998; NRx; Campion

“That won’t be happening either.”

Oh, I don’t know. You suppose that black dog Erdogan can learn to say “drone” in Russian?


33 posted on 11/27/2015 8:58:28 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen and you, O death, are annihilated!)
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To: Slyfox

Exactly.


34 posted on 11/27/2015 9:00:57 AM PST by NRx (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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To: Yardstick

I say we split Hagia Sophia down the middle, move one half to Rome, the other half to Moscow.


35 posted on 11/27/2015 9:08:41 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firep Myower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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To: Kolokotronis

“Oh, I don’t know. You suppose that black dog Erdogan can learn to say “drone” in Russian?”

I have no idea, I just don’t think the Russians militarily can do all that much to Turkey without resorting to nukes. Ukraine is in the way. The Caucasus nations are in the way. The Black Sea - even with the Russian Black Sea fleet - is in the way. The Russians won’t be marching down Ä°stiklal Avenue any time soon.


36 posted on 11/27/2015 9:25:11 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

Istanbul?! - Constantinople?!
That’s nobody’s business but the Turks!!


37 posted on 11/27/2015 9:37:31 AM PST by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Campion
True but that's where it gets complicated. You could turn that same argument around and point out that it was de facto Orthodox for 517 years and de jure Orthodox for another 400 years and so is basically Orthodox -- which I would guess is how most people see it. It seems like it may be overemphasizing a technicality to say that it's Catholic rather than Orthodox.
38 posted on 11/27/2015 9:48:23 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: bunkerhill7

It’s too pretty to split. I say we put it on wheels and move it from city to city every fifty years.


39 posted on 11/27/2015 9:50:06 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Kolokotronis

bump


40 posted on 11/27/2015 10:55:16 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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