Posted on 11/02/2015 6:56:55 AM PST by Salvation
Do you still not realize that the review for these rewards takes place IN HEAVEN, not at a purgatory door?
The review occurs AFTER the believers have been snatched out of this world, into new bodies dimensionally able to see Jesus as He really is in greater dimensionality, and we are removed to go with Him where He has prepared a place for us. That place is in Heaven. We are transformed to be fit for that place Jesus is preparing for us. Those are what PAUL taught, and Jesus explained to the Disciples in His Passover meeting with them (John 14) prior tot he crucifixion. I can understand why you would not be interested in the actual teachings from Paul and Jesus, since the Truth isn’t found in the magicsteerignthem the religion of catholiciism commands.
“In the Epistle I read, the building had stone, metal, straw and stubble before, and emerges with stone and metal after. That is a purified building.”
In a sense, the CHURCH is purified - when Jesus separates the wheat from the tares. But the building in the word picture is not a man’s soul. No amount of twisting can turn it into a man’s soul. Nor is the point about purification, but revelation.
But of course, that is allowing the Apostle Paul to give the interpretation:
“But on the judgment day, fire will reveal what kind of work each builder has done. The fire will show if a person’s work has any value.”
And how DARE I quote the Apostle Paul, when we know the Catholic Church disagrees with him! < / sarcasm >
More catholic nonsense.
The thief died 300 years before the first catholic appeared on the scene.
They weren’t catholics then, they were real followers of Yeshua.
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That is correct because there's no such thing or place as purgatory. Did his execution for theft expiate the temporal punishments due all his OTHER sins or did his simple faith in Jesus Christ as Savior satisfy the sin debt God demands?
Bro, there are apologists on FR who will tell you even Abraham was/is a catholic. There is no reasoning with such.
If the day of Pentecost and the scene in the House of Cornelius are any indication, believing has immediate SALVATION/TRANSFORMATION results, not entry onto a yo-yo trail of sacraments.
We know that the judgment happens after we die. That is about all we know. Heaven is commonly understood as separate from Purgatory, and nothing in the passage on hand suggests otherwise.
I made this point earlier to you. Purgatory is not only a process of individual purification of the soul but also is thought of as a church.
the building in the word picture is not a man's soul
"You are God's building" is followed by a dozen "every man". Write your own epistle if you don't like this one.
False dichotomy. In his case, the purification occurred when he believed in Jesus, expressed remorse for his sins, and did the good work of defending the innocent and rebuking the guilty. He died a good Catholic death.
Except, by all the rules of English, "every man" does not apply to the "you", but the "we" - the builders:
"According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each man must be careful how he builds on it..." "each...how he builds"
"Now if any man builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each man's work will become evident...the fire itself will test the quality of each man's work."
Sorry, but you really need to work on your English & reading. There are no crayons big enough to draw a picture that cannot be twisted if the viewer refuses to view...or a reader refuses to read.
I have no doubt how Kennedy came to decide the Constitution required homosexual marriage. When you want the answer bad enough, the text no longer matters!
I would ask you, what sin could you commit in the future, after professing belief in Jesus as your needed Savior, that would take God by surprise? When God births your human spirit from Above, His life is put into your human spirit and there is no "sin" which you can thereafter commit which would surprise the One Who knows the end from the beginning. You cannot earn Salvation and you cannot buy it on the installment plan of catholic troddery. The twisted reasoning of carts before horses is familiar. The Bible records ol' Nicodemus doing the same thing in John 3.
I wonder, really I do, that catholics are unable to see they are a religion of working your way to salvation, especially evident when they post assertions like, “and did the good work”. You really believe you earn some of the means to Heavenly life through your works somehow causing God to owe you Salvation becvause you ‘did the good work’? ... And the catholic mind will twist that question to fit the specious religion which is a Christian look-a-like but not Christianity.
I think, by the rules of any language, "every man" applies to every man.
Do you have any more questions?
When I ask questions of catholics, they are rhetoprical, for I do not expect truth to follow along with the ‘answerrs’ catholics tend to cling to. The ‘answers’ which spill forth from catholic minds tend to be reflections from the magicsteeringthem, thus not helpful in the main. When I use rhetorical questions, my goal is what is usually intended with such, to get the one questioned to think, to check if they actually know truth. Only you and God can be the judge of your mental response to a rhetorical question. Have nice day
“I think, by the rules of any language, “every man” applies to every man.”
Hmmmm...
“We worked all day. Every man was tired.”
Does that mean every man in the world, or every man who was on the team that worked all day?
English. It is what English Bibles are translated into...
No, it is not a “false dichotomy” at all. It is a relevant question that SHOULD be answerable by those who imagined the whole concept of purgatory from the start. How many years have they had to develop it???
Look, I appreciate the dilemma faithful Catholics find themselves in when they try to step up and defend the various and sundry unscriptural doctrines developed over the ccenturies. Do you, can you, admit that on this subject particularly the magesterium dropped the ball and could have worked a little harder on the details rather than leaving it up to the individual to figure it out for themselves?
Paul makes it easy in his instructions to Timothy:
“But avoid foolish and old wives’ fables, and exercise yourself into godliness.” (1 Timothy 4:7 DR)
You too.
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