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Vatican Theologian Confesses: "I’m Happy to Be Gay and I Have a Partner"
Corriere Della Sera ^ | October 3, 2015 | Elena Tebano

Posted on 10/03/2015 4:35:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Twinkie

You’re right from that angle. It is a devil’s prank.

What I would add to the discussion is the observation that it does not happen in a vacuum. Generally the lonely and more-than-normally sensitive are more prone to the temptation. That goes for other addictive behaviors too.

There are upsides to a sensitivity to love — not just risks. Pointed in the right direction, it can become a mirror unto God that is not commonly seen in the world. It will make the person look a little kooky to the world. But if the person knows that the world isn’t the thing whose opinion counts the most in the end, that difficulty can be surmounted.


23 posted on 10/03/2015 5:06:34 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: clee1

He’s already been removed from his position.

1) He broke his vow of celibacy by engaging in sexual relations.
2) He engaged in unacceptable behavior
3) He openly flaunted his guilt of the act.


24 posted on 10/03/2015 5:08:18 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He was fired or defrocked or sacked. Thank goodness! Living example of the large number of homosexual priests who’ve infiltrated the Church. Worthless garbage.


25 posted on 10/03/2015 5:09:32 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This deceived one by the Dark One has only found a sexual outlet. A relationship based upon gratification has little chance of lasting. It is a counterfeiting of the man-woman experience. It is like some who buy those $6000 Real Dolls. Is there real fulfillment with a Real Doll? It is counterfeit, just like those who use each other to gratify their sexual appetite. All of it is an effort to reproduce the real thing. In fact it denies them the real deal at the heart of it all: the opportunity to reproduce and partner with another person of the opposite sex—the product of their natural life. This denial takes them out of the gene pool (unless they donate their gametes for in vitro fertilization), into an artificial life as artificial as the Real Doll.

Finally, it denies them the full fulfillment that can only comes from the Natural Law of a Supreme Creator. It is the perfect design that none of Man’s efforts can duplicate. That perfect design achieves a fulfillment that only comes from the opposite sex which is the most intense spiritual experience a human can have in their mortal existence.

The Dark One not only temps one to stupidity, it also tempts one to genetic death and spiritual death.


26 posted on 10/03/2015 5:11:50 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: NetAddicted

And they let him go on until he embarrassed them in public. They knew and did nothing.


27 posted on 10/03/2015 5:13:01 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: NetAddicted

Mmmmm... there IS a difference between the options. A defrocking would be the most appropriate thing if he held a priesthood. The church should have officially disavowed him for the post, regardless of what the school, etc. does for his job.

As for worthless garbage, everybody is worthless garbage without accepting the salvational love of God. This fellow might yet repent unto Christ and see the kingdom of heaven while those bragging that their morals never sank this low could miss it because they leaned only on their prides. A good healthy caution is in order.


28 posted on 10/03/2015 5:13:18 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So now in addition to scads of pedophile priests, we have at least one proud queer priest. What’s next, the first out of the closet cannibal priest ?


29 posted on 10/03/2015 5:14:52 PM PDT by jlindseyx42 (Namaste)
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To: jonrick46

Spoken like a good theoretician, at least.

Nothing wrong with it from that level.

Getting it above the level of moralism so the pews as well as the choir appreciate it, is the difficult thing. Nobody raves on the Mona Lisa on account of the paints that Da Vinci used. It is an art that has to be painted by a whole life.


30 posted on 10/03/2015 5:17:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Read this. One thing it says is 30% of Jesuits are sodomites. Doesn’t mean Francis is a sodomite, but it might have given him an unreal perspective of the evil of those sodomites.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3343866/posts


31 posted on 10/03/2015 5:18:59 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: NetAddicted

If you can fit into the ritual and scholastic framework, they won’t care a lot, if at all, about where your soul is. The problems that creep in don’t have to be as bad as homosexual conduct, they can be atheism or dabbling in some different religion than Christianity.


32 posted on 10/03/2015 5:22:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: MeshugeMikey
It sort of DESTROYS the entire premise of the WORD “gay” as used by these people.
There is no premise. "Gay" is just a slang word that got mainstreamed by the movement.
33 posted on 10/03/2015 5:27:58 PM PDT by Salman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“a life of love”

Well, I guess that is one way to put it.


34 posted on 10/03/2015 5:29:26 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: clee1

He broke his vow of celibacy and should be defrocked.


35 posted on 10/03/2015 5:39:46 PM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on behalf of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I want the Church and my community to know who I am: an adulterer who is happy, and proud of his identity. I’m prepared to pay the consequences, but it’s time the Church opened its eyes, and realized that offering adulterous believers total abstinence from a life of love outside what may be a bland marriage is inhuman”. Monsignor Don Giovanni (Don Juan), 43 and Italian, who has been living in Rome for 17 years, speaks with a satisfied smirk on his face.

He is not just any priest, but has been a member of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith since 2003, is assistant secretary of the International Theological Commission of the Vatican, and teaches theology at the Pontifical Gregorian University and the Pontifical Athenaeum Regina Apostolorum in Rome. Never before has a priest with such a high-profile role in the Vatican made a similar statement.

Today, on the eve of the Synod on the family, Monsignor Don Giovanni will be in Rome at the Horndog Catholic International Meeting organized by the Global Network of Adulterous Catholics, to support the discussion on polyamorous Catholics. “While Jesus may have commented once or twice on adultery, including his ambiguous command to ‘Go and sin no more’, which does not explicitly state that the alleged adultery was sinful, there are other considerations - like casual sex is just plain fun.”


36 posted on 10/03/2015 5:44:45 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If I remember correctly, and if they have not changed it, as they changed so many things...once you are ordained a priest, you are always a priest.

Now, there may be other punishments given, but the Sacrament of Holy Orders in priesthood is for life.

Please correct me if someone knows otherwise.


37 posted on 10/03/2015 5:45:53 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: CatherineofAragon

I think that is indeed the case.


39 posted on 10/03/2015 6:01:48 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Salman

There premise was that they are “Gay” the original meaning of which was Rather Happy and Carefree. That being said, saying one is Happy to be Gay...is akin to say that one is Rather Happy and Carefree to be Rather Happy and Carefree..or even Gay to be Happy.

frankly ive always found the word as misused by these poor broken down people to be terribly SAD.

I remember the very first time...i heard the word Misused bacy in the early 60’s. I asked an aqqauntance about a pal of his wanting to know if he was queer, and the guy said he;s “gay”.

I hadl to laugh.


40 posted on 10/03/2015 6:13:42 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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