Posted on 10/03/2015 4:50:54 AM PDT by GonzoII
...i.e. heaven on earth.
Bflr
Agreed, Heaven on earth.
This is where some of our country’s greatest deceivers generate the movement away from the truth, the natural order of God, and God’s natural law.
When the government promises to give, give, give and that by taxing the rich it can solve things like poverty or the wealth gap be careful because those promises go against God’s natural laws.
He doesn’t even understand the difference between the rapture and the second coming of Christ and so has the Protestant/Evangelical position wrong out of the gate.
There’s not much he can say now that would give him any credibility.
To quote Chuck Missler, “the Rapture is the most preposterous theory ever put forth...the only thing it has going for it is that it is unquestionably correct.”
Also, it’s not as *dangerous* as this alarmist would have people believe.
Nobody’s salvation is dependent on believing it and those who are Christians will recognize the anti-Christ and refuse the mark.
A lot of good points here. Supporters of dispensationalism would have to argue that for 1,800 years all Christians were completely wrong and only in the last 200 years did Miller, Darby, Scofield, Lindsey, LaHaye, etc. discover Biblical truths that somehow God allowed to be hidden all this time. This strains credibility. And dispensationalism formed groups like the Jehovah’s Witnesses - that should be a red flag right there.
Worst of all is the idea that the church age is sort of a “parenthesis” - really little more than an historical accident. Dispensationalists point to a future where rituals like animal sacrifices will have the power to cleanse sin. Missing the point that these rituals were meant to point to Christ, the final sacrifice.
Where do Dispensationalists ever say any sacrifice has the power to cleanse sin?
You have the dispensationalist position all wrong the Church age is not a mere parenthesis it is the central part of human history it merely states that the church age has intervened and put the prophetic timeline for the Jews (Daniels 70 weeks) on hold Once the church is captured the final week of Daniel will commence as God finishes dealing with His chosen people. No one believes animal sacrifices will forgive sin, they never did in the past either. The final week of Daniel (what we call the tribulation) will bring Israel to their Savior through the events prophesied
It would really suck for Christianity if Rome’s Jesus, created with Rome’s calendar and catechism , was the ultimate false Christ. An ‘antichrist’.
An instead of Christ or in place of Christ.
That is, if ‘anti’ can mean what it says it means in the concordance I have- strongs #473..-
1) over against, opposite to, before
2) for, instead of, in place of (something)
2a) instead of
2b) for
2c) for that, because
2d) wherefore, for this cause
Best way to tell a counterfeit from the genuine is hold it up to the light.. We learn that by watching cashiers holding money up to the light to see if what they have in their had is real or fake..
What a shock to see what happens when one does that testing and proving ALL things.
The first protestants weren’t wrong when they called the papacy the seat of ‘antichrist’ or the Pope ‘antichrist’.
But did they know Rome has another Jesus and another gospel to go with that other Jesus?
What a counterfeit world religion is- not unlike the rest of the world..
Ah yes ... a RC understanding of Dispensationalism ...
As a dispensationalist myself ... I was not aware that Hal Lindsey was a major spokesman ... perhaps I should read him to set myself straight.
The authors ignorance of even the basic tenants is staggering ... but given his persuasion, not surprising.
The very nature of socialism is anti-Christ. The state is held above the laws of God, and in fact dismisses God outright as the ultimate moral authority. Confiscation of assets deprives mankind of the free will to voluntarily serve God. Finally, as the state will not tolerate any challenge to their authority, those who hold God's law above that of the state are targeted for elimination. We have reached that point in America with the open persecution of Christians within a Christian nation.
Clever attempt by Staples to tarnish Protestants as—aww shucks, maybe kinda sorta possibly—antichrists a la 1 John because they don’t listen to self-appointed popes and priests.
“radically departs from the traditional and biblical Catholic teaching on the Second Coming of Christ.”
Radically adheres to the Scriptures that Catholic teaching perverts.
The Early Church Fathers and Dispensationalism
Also see... God is not done with Israel
Romans 11:25-27:
"For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceit; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, unto the fulness of the Gentiles come in. And so all Israel shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins."
11:1-2
"I say then, hath God cast away His people? God forbid, for I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God hath not cast away His people which he forenew."
Romans 11:8
"According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear; unto this day." Verse 11:11 says it so eloquently , "I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, to provoke them to jealously."
If you believe we are not in the Garden of Eden...
If you believe we are not under the theocratic rule of the nation of Israel...
If you believe we are under the church age...
If you believe there is any kind of future millennial reign...
You are also a dispensationalist.
Examine the Scriptures. Your assumption is false.
“Go your way, Daniel, for these words are concealed and sealed up until the end times” (Daniel 12:9)."
Jeremiah was told the same thing by the Lord on two occasions (Jeremiah 23:20 and 30:24).
The rapture has a LOT more bible supporting it than purgatory!!!
Time will tell ... the first several translations of the 11 Thess 2 passage translated ‘apostasia’ as a noun ‘Departure’. With the protestant revolution from Catholici8sm it got altered for message effect. The rest of the passage in 11 Thess lends to the departure translation mor than the rebellion translation, as in the departure of believers so the man of sin becomes unrestrained. Remember, the word let has changed in meaning over the centuries ... as in a let ball in tennis, meaning the net restrained a clean serve.
I see Tim Staples is still very confused.
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