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To: GonzoII

A lot of good points here. Supporters of dispensationalism would have to argue that for 1,800 years all Christians were completely wrong and only in the last 200 years did Miller, Darby, Scofield, Lindsey, LaHaye, etc. discover Biblical truths that somehow God allowed to be hidden all this time. This strains credibility. And dispensationalism formed groups like the Jehovah’s Witnesses - that should be a red flag right there.

Worst of all is the idea that the church age is sort of a “parenthesis” - really little more than an historical accident. Dispensationalists point to a future where rituals like animal sacrifices will have the power to cleanse sin. Missing the point that these rituals were meant to point to Christ, the final sacrifice.


7 posted on 10/03/2015 5:45:50 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Wilhelm Tell

Where do Dispensationalists ever say any sacrifice has the power to cleanse sin?


8 posted on 10/03/2015 6:05:23 AM PDT by Stegall Tx (FWIW)
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To: Wilhelm Tell

You have the dispensationalist position all wrong the Church age is not a mere parenthesis it is the central part of human history it merely states that the church age has intervened and put the prophetic timeline for the Jews (Daniels 70 weeks) on hold Once the church is captured the final week of Daniel will commence as God finishes dealing with His chosen people. No one believes animal sacrifices will forgive sin, they never did in the past either. The final week of Daniel (what we call the tribulation) will bring Israel to their Savior through the events prophesied


9 posted on 10/03/2015 6:10:21 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Wilhelm Tell
See...

The Early Church Fathers and Dispensationalism

Also see... God is not done with Israel

Romans 11:25-27:

"For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceit; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, unto the fulness of the Gentiles come in. And so all Israel shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins."

11:1-2

"I say then, hath God cast away His people? God forbid, for I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God hath not cast away His people which he forenew."

Romans 11:8

"According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear; unto this day." Verse 11:11 says it so eloquently , "I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, to provoke them to jealously."

If you believe we are not in the Garden of Eden...
If you believe we are not under the theocratic rule of the nation of Israel...
If you believe we are under the church age...
If you believe there is any kind of future millennial reign...

You are also a dispensationalist.

15 posted on 10/03/2015 7:34:30 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Wilhelm Tell
"A lot of good points here. Supporters of dispensationalism would have to argue that for 1,800 years all Christians were completely wrong and only in the last 200 years did Miller, Darby, Scofield, Lindsey, LaHaye, etc. discover Biblical truths that somehow God allowed to be hidden all this time. This strains credibility."

Examine the Scriptures. Your assumption is false.

“Go your way, Daniel, for these words are concealed and sealed up until the end times” (Daniel 12:9)."

Jeremiah was told the same thing by the Lord on two occasions (Jeremiah 23:20 and 30:24).

16 posted on 10/03/2015 7:43:30 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Wilhelm Tell

No, dispensationalism has absolutely nothing to do with JWs.


22 posted on 10/03/2015 8:50:38 AM PDT by redleghunter (Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation)
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