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1 posted on 07/31/2015 5:03:48 PM PDT by NRx
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See also the comment thread at the source page.


2 posted on 07/31/2015 5:04:32 PM PDT by NRx (An unrepentant champion of the old order and determined foe of damnable Whiggery in all its forms.)
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They share the bond of the coming Cross. His life will be offered, a sword will pierce her soul. And once He begins, nothing can stop the movement to Golgotha. Her response is simple: “Do whatever He tells you.” It is a repetition of her earlier, “Be it unto me according to your word.” Her complete humility and self-emptying before God is a human reflection of the self-emptying of Christ on the Cross. With this new “fiat,” the inexorable journey to the Cross begins.

Cool, I hadn't thought of that.

3 posted on 07/31/2015 5:12:23 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("All the time live the truth with love in your heart." ~Fr. Ho Lung)
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What always puzzles me is people claiming Luke 11:28 means Mary was nobody special. It is so obvious, in the context of Luke 1:38. that in Luke 11:28 Jesus is telling us to look to Mary!


4 posted on 07/31/2015 5:17:38 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
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God has a mother ?


5 posted on 07/31/2015 5:18:48 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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“In Orthodoxy, these doctrines are living realities. It is of little importance to acknowledge that someone is, in fact, my mother. It is of the utmost importance that I honor my mother (by Divine command) and love her. We do not think doctrine. Doctrine is a description of the realities by which we live. We venerate the Theotokos because, knowing what we know, we cannot do otherwise.”

I don’t like Fr. Freeman at all. But I must admit that the foregoing, in manner of speaking, describes Orthodoxy, “In Orthodoxy, these doctrines are living realities” and “We do not think doctrine. Doctrine is a description of the realities by which we live.” Orthodoxy is everything about us. It defines us. My mother, of blessed memory, always said, “In Greece people walk Orthodox!”

It’s different.


8 posted on 07/31/2015 5:36:38 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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I once read that the teaching about the Assumption of Mary came from St. Thomas (you know, "that" Thomas...*doubting* Thomas).

Comments? Corrections?

14 posted on 07/31/2015 8:04:36 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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IMHO Mother Mary was a vessel for our lord and savior. She did provide any chromosomes to Jesus, God indwell ed in her.


18 posted on 07/31/2015 8:20:57 PM PDT by freeonefrom (God bless America and our troops.)
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John 4
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Mary is the mother of God in the flesh which is Jesus, but God was here from the beginning.


29 posted on 08/01/2015 8:33:01 AM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible don`t say it, don`t preach it to me.)
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Many Protestants have made much of Christ’s reply to her: “What is this between you and me?” They have treated the statement to mean: “What business is this of yours?”


I believe Jesus is just telling Mary that although she knows her son is a gift from God she does not know his purpose.

Her suggestion that he make wine hints that in her mind he was just here for her delight.

And this is also shown mark 3
31 There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.

32 And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.

33 And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?

34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

Mary and he her step children or what ever they were were not followers of Jesus, if they had of been they would not have been with out and at any rate would not have had to ask permission to see him.

John 7
3 His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest .

4 For there is no man that doeth any thing in secret, and he himself seeketh to be known openly *. If thou do these things, shew thyself to the world.

5 For neither did his brethren believe in him.

6 Then Jesus said unto them, My time is not yet come : but your time is alway ready.

7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth , because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

8 Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast; for my time is not yet full come .

9 When he had said these words unto them, he abode still in Galilee.

10 But when his brethren were gone up , then went he also up unto the feast, not openly, but as it were in secret.

In the scriptures where Mary is mentioned she is with the brethren of Jesus who did not believe in him at the time.

This all must have came later espically for James and Jude and it must have taken Mary quite some time to realize that Jesus was also her savior.


37 posted on 08/01/2015 12:03:51 PM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible don`t say it, don`t preach it to me.)
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My earlier post was to point out that “Mary” is not a God to pray to just as you would not pray to an angel. You pray to God and Jesus. You might pray to God for an angel to help you. God, the Son Jesus and The Holy Spirit are God.


76 posted on 08/04/2015 4:25:40 AM PDT by freeonefrom (God bless America and our troops.)
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