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On the Biblical Roots and Requirements of Church Design
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 07-30-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 07/31/2015 7:13:24 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: avenir

SHEKINAH
SHEKINAR
MISHKAN

refers the dwelling place of God

His SHEKINAH Glory, refers to the pillar of fire, which preceded the Hebrew nation as they traveled through the desert by night or pillar of smoke by day and when they settled, they erected the Tabernacle tent (Latin for tent), it is referenced as the MISHKAN or Dwelling Place, same root as SHEKINAH, to dwell.

The Halo depicted about a saints head in paintings has its root in the SHEKINAH Glory present today. It might be manifest by the indwelling of God in the believer in our human spirit.

There are no holy buildings today in the Church Age, because God chooses by His Volition, known as His Sovereignty, where He is going to dwell. In His Plan, He now dwells in the human spirit of the believer.

While an auditorium meeting place of believers is a good place for architectural symbology, to educate the believers in His Word, their design indeed may take on many of the same aspects of the Tabernacle.


41 posted on 08/01/2015 7:54:45 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Cvengr

Well said and interesting. My first response wasn’t against the freedom to use “symbology”, but Charles poorly quoting Hebrews to make HIS point (when the text was making another, all told). Even that was probably pointless but I HAD to go there (slow learner).


42 posted on 08/01/2015 8:46:07 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: SuzyQue
Jesus spoke in parables. I don’t know why, and I often wish He spoke in plain English :),

The bible tells us why he spoke in parables...

Mat 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
Mat 13:12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
Mat 13:15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

but in His infinite wisdom, He chose to speak in ways that we have to interpret.

Not so much...Jesus explained many of the parables...The solution is not interpretation but belief...We must believe the scriptures and then compare them with other scriptures to get the full picture...

43 posted on 08/01/2015 9:42:56 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: avenir
Rather than pretend that the issue is whether or not someone agrees about the design of churches maybe you should read what I actually stated.

People who throw out part of the Old Testament most certainly have blasphemed the Holy Spirit by insisting that the Holy Spirit is imperfect and therefore not part of the Trinity. That logically follows from their insisting that the Holy Spirit could not and did not protect His Holy Word from including error for nearly seventeen hundred years.

You might take note that I stated, ". . . about church design or anything else."

Hope that clears up your little reading comprehension problem.

You might also want to try reading and studying a complete Bible rather than the anti-Christ, anti-Christian, Pharisee Rabbi Approved Luther Subset of Scripture

have a lovely day

44 posted on 08/01/2015 10:28:04 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Iscool

Iscool, I’m pretty conversant with the Bible and have spent a lot of time learning and pondering.

The verses that you quote do not answer “why”, other than that it is not for us to know, for now. Still some big “whys” there. Maybe you have figured out the mysteries of the universe, and, if so, good for you and we can quit discussing religion at all.

(Be careful how you answer - I could start quoting Job).


45 posted on 08/01/2015 11:24:30 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: Salvation

Isn’t that amazing? Devout young men enter the priesthood due to grace... not corny billboards, slick magazine ads or commercials on MTV?!? Who would have guessed?! Could this mean that in 50 or so years we might get our Church back?


46 posted on 08/01/2015 2:46:20 PM PDT by 2tipsea (What can I say?)
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To: Rashputin

Church design is the subject of the piece, wherefore I mentioned it and not “other things”. Did I fail to comprehend what this post was about?


47 posted on 08/01/2015 5:24:11 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: avenir
So your contention is that someone who blasphemes the Holy Spirit is still a solid authority on Church design the fact that they cannot possibly be guided by the Holy Spirit they blaspheme when it comes to Church design or anything else.

gotcha

Thanks for making the point that some people don't consider guidance from the Holy Spirit important when discussing church related issues.

48 posted on 08/01/2015 5:33:30 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

Blasphemy against the Spirit, specifically, is seeing Jesus work miracles and saying it was Beelzebub. Inventing another definition is ill-advised.


49 posted on 08/01/2015 7:27:56 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: avenir
Oh? So now denying that the Holy Spirit is perfect and therefore not part of the Trinity, meaning of course that there is no Trinity, is just a minor quirk, not blasphemy ?

Someone needs to look up the definition of terms as they've been used for several thousand years rather than what some self-appointed authority says or spinning their own definition based on their own personal interpretation of whatever portion of the Luther Subset of Scripture they like today and may well ignore tomorrow.

Alas, the Self and Self Alone lie euphemistically known as "Scripture Alone" rules the minds of those who buy into that diabolical deception so I seriously doubt what the true meaning of any particular word is important to such folks just like the portion of Scripture they threw into the garbage can isn't important to them.

have a nice day

50 posted on 08/02/2015 2:05:16 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: avenir
Oh, and by the by, the little game of redefining what blasphemy means to narrow it down to some particular statement simply squeezes the air in the balloon to the other end meaning that denying that the Holy Spirit could not and did not protect Holy Scripture from the inclusion of error swells to blaspheming the entire Trinity by asserting either that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are not one or that all three are imperfect.

So, another attempt to change the subject by changing definitions of words to suit whatever current Self and Self Alone interpretation some particular fallacy requires fails outright because throwing Scripture in the garbage can denies the deity of the Holy Spirit alone or the deity of the entire Trinity.

Have a lovely Self and Self Alone illusion sort of day.

51 posted on 08/02/2015 2:17:43 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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