Posted on 07/26/2015 7:30:39 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
You throw out perfectly good teaching of the Church for your own opinion?
Festus; is the rack available today?
You just HAD to call them forth; didn't you!!
Pope Stephen VI (896897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]
Pope John XII (955964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.
Pope Benedict IX (10321044, 1045, 10471048), who "sold" the Papacy
Pope Boniface VIII (12941303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy
Pope Urban VI (13781389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]
Pope Alexander VI (14921503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]
Pope Leo X (15131521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]
Pope Clement VII (15231534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.
Why do you want to put forward a half truth?
15 But if thy brother shall offend against thee, go, and rebuke him between thee and him alone. If he shall hear thee, thou shalt gain thy brother.
16 And if he will not hear thee, take with thee one or two more: that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may stand.
17 And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican.
Strange; ain't it!
Jesus answered, The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.
When the aliens of the future find the remenants of old FR files, and read thru the comments made by CAtholics; I wonder what conclusion that they will come to about this statement.
Are you REALLY this ignorant?
Baghdad Bob wasn't this audacious!
One can only hope!
You make Tommy cry!
If upstate New York had been heavily Catholic; it would have been plagiarized from the Vulgate.
But; since it wasn't...
GOD instructed JS, Jr. to re-translate the KJV to get the errors out.
SLC Mormonism does NOT use this version (No; I do NOT know why); perferring the error prone KJV instead.
Here is a small sample of the changes...
Color coding explanation:
Added stuff... Changed stuff... Rearranged stuff... Removed stuff...
*(UNDERLINED stuff is the DISTRACTING reference on every tenth word or so that infuses LDS 'scripture' online.)
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Would a VERY long list of NOT-WELL KNOWN ones works for you?
I can give you a list of well-known MORMONs in the entertainment industry give you a tingle?
Acts 9:3-4
As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. 4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?
Since; like Elwood and Jake; Paul was on a Mission from GOD. It is assumed he'd be riding instead of WALKING the entire distance to Damascus.
I LOVE the smell of an Elsiethon in the morning!
It sounded funny and I laughed till I stopped.
Relentlessly promoting one holy catholic apostolic church without a visible, historical manifestation of that as being Rome (its distinctively not in Scripture ) , and without bona fide Scriptural authority, seems to miss the mark, so to speak.
The church of Rome is far from being one, while the Scriptural and historical evidence abundantly testifies against her being the NT church. My visible, historical manifestation is that of a church which began contrary to that of Rome, with believers who recognized men and writings of God as being so, without an infallible magisterium of men, which Rome insists is essential for that. And thus churches of such believers have ordained presbuteros/episkopos as pastors, not a clergy distinctively titled 'priests" as per Catholicism, who are normally married, contrary to Catholicism, and are not required and presumed to have the gift of celibacy.
And whose primary duty was prayer and preaching the word, feeding the flock thereby, whereby souls obtained spiritual life and were "nourished," (Acts 20:28,32; 1Tim. 4:6) not by eating something physically, which priests have offered as a sacrifice for sins as per the error of Catholicism.
And which baptized believers who confessed the Lord Jesus thereby, their hearts being purified by the faith behind confession, as Peter and Paul preached, and which faith is counted for righteousnesses, (Acts 10:43-47; 15:7-10; Rm. 4:1-7) thus their next postmortem (or post 2nd coming) experience would be that of being henceforth with the Lord, versus sprinkling of water rendering them good enough to be with God, thus (usually) culminating in once again becoming good enough to be with God thru postmortem purgatorial suffering of purifying torments.
And which had spiritual authority based upon Scriptural substantiation in word and in power, though rejected by those who were the historical stewards of Scripture, and whom they reproved by Scripture, as God can raise up true children from stones. (Mt.3:9)
In contrast assurance of Truth for a RC rests upon the the novel and unScriptural premise of ensured perpetual magisterial infallibility. And thus a faithful RC is not to ascertain the veracity of RC teaching by examination of evidences (for that reason). For to do so would be to doubt the claims of Rome to be the assuredly infallible magisterium which require assent of faith, while such magisterial teaching as encyclicals, including social teaching, requires religious assent, which excludes public dissent.
And the list goes on.
Thus the visible, historical alternative to Rome begins with the NT church (which was an alternative to following the historical magisterium in all things), and which stands in foundational (principal) and extensive contrast with the Cath church. And this historical alternative has always existed, even if as a remnant with the visible church (which, best an unholy admixture of tares and wheat cannot be the one true church, which the body of Christ alone is). This historical alternative is visible today, even with some differences (the 7 churches of Asia were all churches, despite and and bad differences), ordaining men in keeping with the principal of apostolic leadership taken place by presbuteros/episkopos, not priests, and preaching the gospel of grace, not that of Rome, and baptizing souls, praying for the sick, etc.
These are the most unified in conservative beliefs, in contrast to the fruit of Rome, which includes Ted Kennedy RCs whom you must own, as Rome counts and treats as members in life and in death. Which unholy amalgam RCs insist we must join, contrary to the words of Scripture,
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. (2 Corinthians 6:14-18)
A thousand head of cattle drinking out of a wash pan would be an event.
Telling some one you saw a thousand head of cattle drink out of a wash pan is not an event, it is most likely a tall tail.
“absence of evidence is not evidence of absence”
WHAT??!!??
You throw out perfectly good teaching of the Church for your own opinion?
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