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To: sasportas
Let's read 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 again:
If you're talking about the " parousia", that Greek word is found in many scriptures concerning the Second Coming of Christ.
In Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, number 3952 it's rendered: There are three different Greek words which are used relative to Christ's return to this earth.
They are:

Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 are the focus of that :Coming" .

But "Rapture" is NOT in the Bible.
260 posted on 07/26/2015 11:54:16 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

There are three different Greek words which are used relative to Christ’s return to this earth.
They are:

(1) parousia, as already defined;

(2) epiphaneia, or, the “Epiphany,” the Advent (arrival) of Christ, meaning “a manifestation, appearing, brightness,”

and, (3) apokalupsis, meaning “disclosure, appearing, coming, lighten, manifestation, be revealed, revelation.”

>>I agree with you completely, a good answer for all these folks on this thread trying to make two separate events out of the one event.

However, I didn’t mean any of these three words when I said the word “rapture” is in the Latin version of 1 Thess. 4. I was referring to the Greek word “harpazo,” in Latin “rapture,” in English it is “caught up” (verse 17).


299 posted on 07/27/2015 6:44:04 AM PDT by sasportas
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To: Yosemitest
The Latin Vulgate translated 'harpazo' as rapio:

Verb
rapiō (present infinitive rapere, perfect active rapuī, supine raptum); third conjugation iō-variant
1.I snatch, grab, carry off, abduct

Perhaps Jerome's use of 'carry off' or 'I snatch' (in the twinkling of an eye is quick!) is why the first several Bible translations translated 'apostasia' as departure, and departing, as seen in 2 Thess 2.

308 posted on 07/27/2015 8:23:49 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Yosemitest
But "Rapture" is NOT in the Bible.

It is, and it has been discussed here before amd proven, so put away your blanks. Play cowboy someplace else.

710 posted on 07/31/2015 6:56:54 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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