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To: Bob434

No one will be “accepting Christ” after the trib.

The age of grace ends with the First Resurrection, the event that ends the trib.

Obviously everyone alive on Earth will see the sky opened up to the realm of God, as the elect from day one to then are gathered by the angels, but at that point it will be meaningless.

Everyone knows that a baseball bat is made of hickory when they get hit on the head with it.

The seals have been getting opened for almost 2000 years. We are in the 5th seal period presently.

The trib has nothing to do with judgement; it is the wrath of Satan, who will at that time have been just cast down to Earth, against YHVH’s people.

It lasts about 42 months, and ends at the 7th and last trump, when Yeshua and his angels burst through to gather his own to the wedding feast on the sea of glass mingled with fire.

The wrath of God comes in the ten days after the resurrection of the just, the “Bowl Judgements.”

There is not one word in the entire Bible that tells us that anyone can be saved during the millennial reign. Revelation 20 is clear that the rest of the world will be resurrected unto the judgement of the Great White Throne, and judged according to their works.

It says nothing about grace. To be judged by your works is to be condemned to the “Second Death.”

Sorry if this is harsh and upsetting to you, but that is what the word of God tells us.


163 posted on 07/26/2015 5:15:31 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
What type of wood is used to make Louisville Slugger baseball bats?

Approximately half of pro bats are made from northern white ash and the other half from maple. The best timber comes from parts of Pennsylvania, New York and other northeastern states where the terrain and climate are most favorable to its growth. 

In the past, hickory was also a popular wood for bats, but it is too heavy to meet the demands of today's players.

 

http://www.sluggermuseum.com/faq/

173 posted on 07/26/2015 5:46:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor
No one will be “accepting Christ” after the trib.

Then it seems to be a waste of time.

174 posted on 07/26/2015 5:47:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor

[[Sorry if this is harsh and upsetting to you, but that is what the word of God tells us.]]

Upsetting? No- just a difference of opinion is all

[[The age of grace ends with the First Resurrection, the event that ends the trib.]]

you’re welcome to your opinion on that matter

[[Obviously everyone alive on Earth will see the sky opened up to the realm of God, as the elect from day one to then are gathered by the angels,]]

there is some indication that only the elect at the rapture will see it and the world will not-

[[The trib has nothing to do with judgement; it is the wrath of Satan,]]

Again, you’re entitled to your opinion- I’ve laid out what pretrib believes- It is not Satan bringing the judgements upon the earth at that time, it is Christ who sends forth the riders

[[The wrath of God comes in the ten days after the resurrection of the just, the “Bowl Judgements.”]]

There is an argument to be made for that- but there is also an argument to be made for pretrib rapture- which as I’ve indicated in previousp osts I personally belewive there ism ore evidence to suggest pretrib-

I went to Word of Life bible college- a 1-2 year study of God’s word- strong Baptist leanings- We had some very good teachers- who at that time taught pretrib- one named Marv Rosenthol who now runs ‘Friends of Israel’ and “Israel My Glory” magazines

Marv turned from Pre trib to mid trib somewhere along the liens, and Word of Life dropped him as a teacher because of it- I thought it a bit extreme to drop him for that- but whatever- I studied everything Marv had to say about the mid trib issue, and felt he did a really good job making his case, and I could definitely see how he came to believe as he did- however, I still believe there is more scriptural evidence to sway the pendulum of the issue in the direction of pretrib

[[There is not one word in the entire Bible that tells us that anyone can be saved during the millennial reign.]]

Revelations talks about John looking into heaven and seeing the ‘great multitude of people’ those believed to be folks saved and killed during tribulation times as for the millennium

“Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS” (Jeremiah 23:5-6). “

The bible also talks about the millennial kingdom being ruled By Christ with an iron rod so that ALL may live in peace during that time- this indicates there will be unsaved during this reign- As for the saved, they will procreate during that time, and their offspring will be unsaved and in need of salvation- it seems unreasonable that God wouldn’t allow them to be saved alongside their parents

Some believe the millenium will made up entirely of saved people- however, scripture is pretty clear- there will be unsaved- those Satan enlists for one last attempted takeover- IF there are only saved people in millennium, then the unsaved must come from the saved people’s procreation- However, I believe unsaved people will be around at the beginning because of the verses talking about Christ ruling with iron rod to make everything safe-

Any way- As I mentioned there are cogent arguments for both positions- no reason why we have to say things like “Sorry if this is harsh and upsetting to you,” It’s an area where we can agree to disagree civilly I hope- As I said- I’ve studied both positions- seen many good arguments for both sides, and I personally believe the evidence ways more heavily on the side of pretrib rapture- IF pretrib rapture turns out to not be the case, oh well- We’ll have more to occupy our times at that point than arguments about different interpretations of prophecy


227 posted on 07/26/2015 9:13:52 PM PDT by Bob434
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